Today's postings

  1. [Baren 38717] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V47 #4793 (Apr 23, 2009) (Lynn Starun)
  2. [Baren 38718] Tagging Blogs and Using Search in Archives (Gayle Wohlken)
  3. [Baren 38719] Re: Tagging Blogs and Using Search in Archives ("Ellen Shipley")
  4. [Baren 38720] Re: Not that old chestnut... ("Ellen Shipley")
  5. [Baren 38721] RE: art/craft (Charlie overshoe)
  6. [Baren 38722] Beach Museum exhibition runs through July 19 in Manhattan, KS ("Mike Lyon")
  7. [Baren 38723] Re: Beach Museum exhibition runs through July 19 in Manhattan, KS (ArtfulCarol # aol.com)
  8. [Baren 38724] Re: art/craft (ArtSpotiB # aol.com)
  9. [Baren 38725] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
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Message 1
From: Lynn Starun
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:11:54 GMT
Subject: [Baren 38717] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V47 #4793 (Apr 23, 2009)
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Hi Marilynn,I read your explanation about how to make sure only woodblock related blog entries get listed in this forum--somehow I missed the original post about this issue.  I  realized I don't know a way to search back through this forum other than going slowly through my emails.  So, if I understand it right--my blog won't appear unless I use a tag of woodblock, moku hanga etc.I like that!Lynn
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Message 2
From: Gayle Wohlken
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:31:29 GMT
Subject: [Baren 38718] Tagging Blogs and Using Search in Archives
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Lynn Starun replied to Marilynn's (and my) posts about tagging
woodblock related material on blogs.

> So, if I understand it right--my blog won't appear unless
> I use a tag of woodblock, moku hanga etc.I like that!Lynn


Lynn, theoretically it's supposed to work that way. I think Julio
would have to jump in here and explain further. It seems, despite the
tagging system, other types of blog entries are getting through, so
maybe the tagging system isn't up and running full tilt?

Lynn if you go to the main archives page for Baren, there is a search
capability at the bottom of the page.

http://www.barenforum.org/archives/archives.html

Gayle/Moderator/Archivist
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Message 3
From: "Ellen Shipley"
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:56:52 GMT
Subject: [Baren 38719] Re: Tagging Blogs and Using Search in Archives
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I don't mind the occasional off-topic entry from a printmaker whose work I
follow. I'd be interested anyway. ;-]

Ellen
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Message 4
From: "Ellen Shipley"
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:05:44 GMT
Subject: [Baren 38720] Re: Not that old chestnut...
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As usual I was unclear in my post. ;-] I actually agree with what Sharri
said. Art that inspires, that uplifts, that is spiritual all has a purpose.
I wasn't clear when I said "art that makes you think" -- by that I meant art
that is supposed to make you cringe -- shock value art. It is often put
forward as worthwhile because it makes you think, but really it usually just
disgusts or irritates. It says "look at me, I can paint with buggers!"

I still think political art is advertising -- we call it propaganda. It may
be technically appealing, but it has a hidden agenda. Maybe to some that is
art. I disagree. Doesn't mean I can't appreciate it as a good design.

Closing the can of worms now. ;-]

Ellen

-(>-----~
Ellen Shipley
Trompt As Writ
~----- Art vs. Craft, or vice versa - I think we have a sticky wicket.
>
> I have to disagree with Ellen, art that makes you think is not just
> another form of advertising. Art from the beginning was to make us
> think: the cave paintings were probably to make us think of the spiritual
> or the next days hunt. The art of the middle ages was meant to make us
> think of the Bible and the hereafter. Art of the Renaissance was to
> make us consider ourselves in the realm of the spiritual, among other
> things. Modern or contemporary art begs us to look at old things in new
> ways, I rest that case...
>
> As printmakers we are probably more conscious of the craft involved in
> our techniques and processes, much more than a painter, for instance. I
> have seen powerful prints which lacked a lot of skill, but they were
> still very much works of art, so skill/craft is not a necessary
> prerequisite. However, skill never ceases to capture my attention: "How
> did they do that?? "
>
> It seems to me that the two are so intertwined as to be inseparable.
>
> Cheers ~
> Sharri
>
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Message 5
From: Charlie overshoe
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:31:07 GMT
Subject: [Baren 38721] RE: art/craft
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Art /Craft ....Artist / Craftsman???? To my mind these are words that promote a devisiveness that is meant to elevate one groups / persons work over anothers. The reality (to my mind ) is that a good artist is a good craftsman and a good craftsman is an artist.



However, in defense of crafts as we know them today.... you can still eat off an ugly plate or sit in an ugly chair .... but what do you do with a bad drawing??? Firestarter???? :-)



BP
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Message 6
From: "Mike Lyon"
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:19:31 GMT
Subject: [Baren 38722] Beach Museum exhibition runs through July 19 in Manhattan, KS
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Hey, Bareners. An exhibition of my prints and drawings opened last week at
the Beach Museum of Art in Manhattan, Kansas! I spoke there and did a fancy
slide and video presentation last Thursday - it was FUN, but probably
BORING!!!

I'll get a video walk-through of the exhibition itself up in a day or two
(light in the museum is DIM, so my video is almost colorless) - meanwhile,
you might enjoy a look at the catalog: Let me know what you think!

http://mlyon.com/blog/uploaded_images/beach_museum_exhibition_lettersize.pdf

YAY!

Mike

Mike Lyon
Kansas City, MO
http://mlyon.com/blog
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Message 7
From: ArtfulCarol # aol.com
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:36:36 GMT
Subject: [Baren 38723] Re: Beach Museum exhibition runs through July 19 in Manhattan, KS
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Mike, Congrats!
I'm sure this was not boring. Sounds exciting to me!
Carol Lyons


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Message 8
From: ArtSpotiB # aol.com
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:28:54 GMT
Subject: [Baren 38724] Re: art/craft
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Wow but Charles has it right in my book.

"The reality(to my mind ) is that a good artist is a good craftsman and a
good craftsman is an artist."

Benny

"Don't give up. It just hasn't found it's owner yet" Artygalz, aol chat
room pal regarding art sales.

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Subject: [River in Spring - 5] : On to the colours ...
Posted by: Dave Bull

Continued from [River in Spring - 4] | Starting point of the thread is [River in Spring - 1]

After leaving the key impression to 'set' overnight, I did the first of the colour blocks this morning (and afternoon). And as I have before, and certainly will again, I am having 'trouble' keeping myself from making the impression 'nice and smooth'.

I spent pretty much the whole of the previous twenty years trying to keep the impressions smooth and free from texture, and it has really become just second nature, so now, when I have a block to print that I know should be printed with a more blurry mottled texture, I have to fight myself every step of the way.

One part of my brain says, "C'mon, spread that paste out smoothly ..." while another part is saying, "No way; lighten up on the baren pressure, and get some mottling into the colour ..."

That's a battle that'll never end, I fear ... Anyway, here's what she looks like with one colour in place:

This is a 'base' colour, and regions of this will be overprinted in different tones as we move along.


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Subject: Nest Egg
Posted by: Andrew Stone



The local elementary school is holding an "arts" auction to benefit the arts program for the school. I was asked to volunteer to help the class work on a group project that could then be auctioned (ransomed?) off to the parents at the upcoming evening event. Some classes have done some pottery work, another is working on a tiled fountain, others, refrigerator magnets.
As the class is working extensively on birds as a topic I had the children do drawings of something about the bird they had chosen to study and to do some preparatory sketches to collage together. The idea was to collage them together in an interesting way leaving me to carve the drawing out in the calm of my studio and then print them together in the classroom.

I got lots and lots of neat drawings. But in the end I had to do two collages. One with a drawing from each student. It turned out much more varied and lively, but very cluttered and I feared would be very hard and time consuming to carve.
The other pulled out all the larger drawings that coincidentally (mostly drawn by the girls) were of the nests. Those that included tree branches/trunks . . .
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