Today's postings
- [Baren 37959] Good Credit Score V46 #4680 (Jan 19, 2009) (Eileen Corder)
- [Baren 37960] RE: ads tagged on to mail ("Maria Arango")
- [Baren 37961] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V46 #4680 (Jan 19, 2009) (Gayle Wohlken)
- [Baren 37962] RE:plate clearing/old japanese book block (Rosposfe # aol.com)
- [Baren 37963] Re:plate clearing/old japanese book block (Dave Bull)
- [Baren 37964] Re: Woodprints at Ropewalk : North Lincolnshire : UK (reneeaugrin # aol.com)
Message 1
From: Eileen Corder
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:14:32 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37959] Good Credit Score V46 #4680 (Jan 19, 2009)
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Hi to All,
Would it be tactless of me, or offensive, if I asked that ads (like the one
I've copied below) NOT be posted on the forum?
Peace,
Eileen
>--andrew stone
>**************
>A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours
>in just 2 easy steps!
>...
Would it be tactless of me, or offensive, if I asked that ads (like the one
I've copied below) NOT be posted on the forum?
Peace,
Eileen
>--andrew stone
>**************
>A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours
>in just 2 easy steps!
>...
Message 2
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:02:00 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37960] RE: ads tagged on to mail
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These types of ads are automatically added by the free mail software at
Yahoo, AOL, etc.
It is one of the prices we pay for using "free" stuff.
I don't know if users can opt out but I would doubt it.
Maria
> Would it be tactless of me, or offensive, if I asked that ads (like the
> one
> I've copied below) NOT be posted on the forum?
>
> Peace,
> Eileen
>
>
> --andrew stone
> **************
> A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours
> in just 2 easy steps!
Yahoo, AOL, etc.
It is one of the prices we pay for using "free" stuff.
I don't know if users can opt out but I would doubt it.
Maria
> Would it be tactless of me, or offensive, if I asked that ads (like the
> one
> I've copied below) NOT be posted on the forum?
>
> Peace,
> Eileen
>
>
> --andrew stone
> **************
> A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours
> in just 2 easy steps!
Message 3
From: Gayle Wohlken
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:03:03 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37961] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V46 #4680 (Jan 19, 2009)
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Eileen, and others who are wondering, Bareners have no control over
what their email providers place at the bottom of their email
messages. I do take the ads out when I edit the digests for the
archives, but I can't do anything about what comes directly from
majordomo since all the list messages are sent from there first.
After majordomo sends out messages, they are also received by Mr.
Digester (Dave's more streamlined program which builds the messages in
archive form for the "New Digest" which is sent out daily after the
majordomo "old digest" is sent out. Dave has the script set to
eliminate a lot of extra code (if you look at the old version of the
digest that comes from majordomo, you will have to hunt through a lot
of messy code sometimes just to get to the meat of the message).
Dave's program can't do much about the ads at the bottom of the
messages , but, as mentioned, I edit them out when I do the archives.
~Gayle Wohlken
Moderator and Archivist
what their email providers place at the bottom of their email
messages. I do take the ads out when I edit the digests for the
archives, but I can't do anything about what comes directly from
majordomo since all the list messages are sent from there first.
After majordomo sends out messages, they are also received by Mr.
Digester (Dave's more streamlined program which builds the messages in
archive form for the "New Digest" which is sent out daily after the
majordomo "old digest" is sent out. Dave has the script set to
eliminate a lot of extra code (if you look at the old version of the
digest that comes from majordomo, you will have to hunt through a lot
of messy code sometimes just to get to the meat of the message).
Dave's program can't do much about the ads at the bottom of the
messages , but, as mentioned, I edit them out when I do the archives.
~Gayle Wohlken
Moderator and Archivist
Message 4
From: Rosposfe # aol.com
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:32:40 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37962] RE:plate clearing/old japanese book block
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Dave's image of an old book block
http://woodblock.com/roundtable/images/text_carving/old_block_02_large.jpg
was very like what I saw at my friend's house. The only difference was that
the cleared out areas were even neater/more cleanly cleared but the idea is
the same.
What I am hanging up on is the obvious slow meticulous work to clear out
between the various limbs of each letter. I have a 3mm and even a 1mm aisuki
(made from a sewing needle) but rarely does the little wedge of wood pop out
so cleanly that I'm done, I often have to go in with the aisuki to either
plane/shave the floor of the removed area or go back along the little "shelf" left
by the aisuki near the line. I wish I had the patience to cleanly carve the
block the first time--even if it takes longer. I find I often can't resist
the temptation to go a bit faster in my haste to see what the carved image will
look like only to have to go back and recarve to get better
definition--especially when I'm carving letters.
I suspect that my ability to print cleanly will depend gradually more and
more on my ability to print well than the ability to carve well (eyesight
willing).
Andrew.
http://woodblock.com/roundtable/images/text_carving/old_block_02_large.jpg
was very like what I saw at my friend's house. The only difference was that
the cleared out areas were even neater/more cleanly cleared but the idea is
the same.
What I am hanging up on is the obvious slow meticulous work to clear out
between the various limbs of each letter. I have a 3mm and even a 1mm aisuki
(made from a sewing needle) but rarely does the little wedge of wood pop out
so cleanly that I'm done, I often have to go in with the aisuki to either
plane/shave the floor of the removed area or go back along the little "shelf" left
by the aisuki near the line. I wish I had the patience to cleanly carve the
block the first time--even if it takes longer. I find I often can't resist
the temptation to go a bit faster in my haste to see what the carved image will
look like only to have to go back and recarve to get better
definition--especially when I'm carving letters.
I suspect that my ability to print cleanly will depend gradually more and
more on my ability to print well than the ability to carve well (eyesight
willing).
Andrew.
Message 5
From: Dave Bull
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:05:29 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37963] Re:plate clearing/old japanese book block
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> I have a 3mm and even a 1mm aisuki (made from a
> sewing needle) but rarely does the little wedge of
> wood pop out so cleanly
The sewing needle tools described on my page are quite a bit smaller
than 1mm. Anything I have as 'large' as 1mm is properly shaped and
sharpened - so it leaves a nice smooth surface. The needles for
'popping out' are really only used in very thin cracks ...
> I suspect that my ability to print cleanly will depend gradually
> more and more on my ability to print well than the ability to
> carve well
Well, the traditional viewpoint is that a good printer should be able
to produce good work from 'anything'. The printer would never 'blame'
the carver - just get down to it ...
(But I have to admit that Dave the Printer certainly has some choice
words sometimes for Dave the Carver!)
Dave
> sewing needle) but rarely does the little wedge of
> wood pop out so cleanly
The sewing needle tools described on my page are quite a bit smaller
than 1mm. Anything I have as 'large' as 1mm is properly shaped and
sharpened - so it leaves a nice smooth surface. The needles for
'popping out' are really only used in very thin cracks ...
> I suspect that my ability to print cleanly will depend gradually
> more and more on my ability to print well than the ability to
> carve well
Well, the traditional viewpoint is that a good printer should be able
to produce good work from 'anything'. The printer would never 'blame'
the carver - just get down to it ...
(But I have to admit that Dave the Printer certainly has some choice
words sometimes for Dave the Carver!)
Dave
Message 6
From: reneeaugrin # aol.com
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:36:27 GMT
Subject: [Baren 37964] Re: Woodprints at Ropewalk : North Lincolnshire : UK
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Hello to all,
Thank you Harry for sending the Ropewalk center information. Once
again Great Britian has set a great example of using a historical
building for a new use. Here in the wild west we have some historical
places but few buildings remain. In order to make a place for
gathering arts and artists we usually need to start from scratch. I
hope to do that here in Damascus, Oregon. This area was once all farm
land south and east of Portland, about seventeen miles, and when I was
growing up here it was truly in the 'sticks', as the town folk would
say. As time goes on there were many swaths of suburban sprawl. This
is now considered 'low density' housing. A few years ago Damascus was
included in the Urban Growth Boundry -- an attempt to slow down the
suburban sprawl, the citizens of Damascus decided to become a city so
that we would have more control of the development of this part of the
world. I have been on many groups, Citizen Design Principles,
Neighboorhood development groups and so on, the process has been slow
but rewarding. Once you accept, this was very difficult as I love the
rural look of things, that this area is desitined to be URBAN, the work
becomes easier. With the interest and acceptance of green building and
green development the idea of urban takes on a different approach.
Rather that giant houses set neck and jowl as we can easily see fro
m
here, there is an interest in pedistrian friendly village style areas
with apartments above retail and car free zones. I am hoping, with
audacity, to create an Arts Village on our acreage which has a great
view to boot! As things progress, I will keep you posted. I am also
attempting to create and keep a blog on the creation of our
'village-green'.
Best regards to all!
Renee
Thank you Harry for sending the Ropewalk center information. Once
again Great Britian has set a great example of using a historical
building for a new use. Here in the wild west we have some historical
places but few buildings remain. In order to make a place for
gathering arts and artists we usually need to start from scratch. I
hope to do that here in Damascus, Oregon. This area was once all farm
land south and east of Portland, about seventeen miles, and when I was
growing up here it was truly in the 'sticks', as the town folk would
say. As time goes on there were many swaths of suburban sprawl. This
is now considered 'low density' housing. A few years ago Damascus was
included in the Urban Growth Boundry -- an attempt to slow down the
suburban sprawl, the citizens of Damascus decided to become a city so
that we would have more control of the development of this part of the
world. I have been on many groups, Citizen Design Principles,
Neighboorhood development groups and so on, the process has been slow
but rewarding. Once you accept, this was very difficult as I love the
rural look of things, that this area is desitined to be URBAN, the work
becomes easier. With the interest and acceptance of green building and
green development the idea of urban takes on a different approach.
Rather that giant houses set neck and jowl as we can easily see fro
m
here, there is an interest in pedistrian friendly village style areas
with apartments above retail and car free zones. I am hoping, with
audacity, to create an Arts Village on our acreage which has a great
view to boot! As things progress, I will keep you posted. I am also
attempting to create and keep a blog on the creation of our
'village-green'.
Best regards to all!
Renee