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Message 14
From: Dan Dew
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:14:04 -0400
Subject: [Baren 31726] Need for a cool grain pattern
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Working on a new image (sorry for being silent for awhile) and need
the help of the grain pattern.
Is Red Oak my best solution?

Daniel L. Dew
Tampa, FL 33624

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Message 1
From: Andy English
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 21:27:16 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Baren 31727] Me Toos
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I didn't actually post a "me too" after Mike's post but I think that the scale of his achievement was worth every one of those messages of support and congravtulations that appeared. I read every on and every time I wanted to cheer "Yes - he deserves this!"

(it probably helps that I read digest - in anycase, if I received individual mails I could delete when I saw the subject line).

Way to go Mike YYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!

Andy (Shedding off his British reserve for a moment, controls himself and goes off to make a pot of tea)


LATEST: Small retrospective exhibition of engravings at the Three Cups Gallery, Ely, UK from August 25th until September 30th.

Wood Engraving "Blog" - http://studiodiary.blogspot.com/

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NEW Website - www.andyenglish.com

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Message 2
From: "Robert Viana"
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:27:58 -0200
Subject: [Baren 31728] Re: Need for a cool grain pattern
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poplar has a nice green wide grain. Look into some curly maple or mahogany too.



>
> Is Red Oak my best solution?
>
>
> Daniel L. Dew
>

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Message 3
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:39:23 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31729] RE: Need for a cool grain pattern
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Red oak, yellow oak, walnut, mohagony; check the reverse (bad side) of many
plywoods like those use for doorskin and such.
Also, many birch boards have very nice grain pattern with the advantage that
you can bring out some of it and leave some of it "silent". You can use wire
brushes of different grades to bring out the grain. Cheap acid brushes from
the paintstore or wire cleaning brushes work well.
You can get more coarse but quicker results with 40 grit sandpaper, or if
you really want to be rough, 16 grit.

Can't wait to see the print!
Maria


Maria Arango
www.1000woodcuts.com

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Message 4
From: Pauldejode # aol.com
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:01:58 EDT
Subject: [Baren 31730] Re: message from the moderator
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I feel it's really quite a simple issue. If you want to talk directly and
personally to one person, i.e. to congratulate them, why would you contact 400
people ?
All that is being asked is to have a little discretion. Is that
really too much to ask of people?
Thanks to all that keep this running ,unpaid and it seems sometimes
unthanked.
Paul de Jode

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Message 5
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:50:28 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31731] too many non-essential posts
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Hey, I am sure a lot of folks on the list tire of reading the same
old stuff over and over again. It is especially annoying to have to
be deluged with the same old answers to all those newbie questions
... the same questions just keep popping up, with the same old
answers being given. So to cut down on the reading time for those of
us who are so, so, so busy, how about the following:

1) No more questions and answers about paper ... unless it is a brand
new paper on the market that has not been mentioned on the list before.

2) No more questions and answers about paste ... rice paste, how to
make it, alternatives, how much to use, how to keep it from spoiling
... all discussed in great detail before.

3) No more questions and answers about inks ... dry pigments,
dispersions, mixing, watercolors, oily inks, brands of ink ...
nothing new has been said on this topic in recent memory.

4) No more questions and answers about wood, various types of wood,
wood grain, alternatives to wood, sources for wood ... it has all
been covered many times before ... check the archives.

5) No more questions and answers about carving tools ... unless it is
a brand new tool on the market that has not been mentioned on the list before.

6) No more questions and answers about carving techniques ... it has
all been covered ... look in the archives.

7) No more questions and answers about sharpening techniques ...
again it is all in the archives.

8) No more questions and answers about barens, covering barens,
oiling barens, ball bearing barens, or baren substitutes ... all
discussed in detail before.

9) No more questions and answers about brushes ... brushes for
applying ink, brushes for applying paste, brushes for applying water,
brushes for smoothing out paste/ink, brushes for wetting paper, how
to clean them, how to store them ... too many discussions on this
topic, for sure.

10) No more questions and answers about printing problems ... no one
out there is going to have any problem that a lot of other folks
haven't already experienced ... and it has all been discussed before
... we do not need another discussion about how much water to use.

We should not have to be subjected to the constant repetition of
these tired old topics. If we could just clear the list of these junk
posts, we would have a lot more time to devote to the really
important topics ... whatever they are ....

Along with the removal of any posts exhibiting human consideration,
the above restrictions will make it much easier for all of us to keep
our posts down to one (or even dramatically fewer) per day.

To make it easier for those of us whose time is so, so, so valuable,
no one should be allowed to post until they have read all the
archives and the encyclopedia and passed a rigorous, detailed
examination on the content. That will help ensure that posts are
significantly less repetitious ... it will certainly cut down the
number of posts.

Heck, we could probably just do away with the list altogether and
save all of us a lot of time, in our so, so, so busy little lives.

Cheers ... that multiple posting, sarcastic, rebellious, libertarian,
non-rule following, human oriented scalawag ... Charles

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Message 6
From: "Carolyn & John Ramsey"
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 14:58:30 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31732] Re: too many non-essential posts
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Oh come on. That was a simple and practical request from Wanda. Why is it
so unreasonable to ask that personal messages be posted to after 5, or to
the person directly? This has been the rule for a very long time.

Carolyn

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Message 7
From: "Mike Lyon"
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:30:10 -0500
Subject: [Baren 31733] RE: Me Toos
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Awwwwwwww, shucks, Andy and EVERYbody! Your well-wishing on and off-list is
so very much appreciated! My hat no longer fits at all, just sits atop my
beach-ball sized head like a. pimple!



Now for the required wood-block content: in Hanga, pronounced wood-grain can
be printed with ease from oak or ash - for light grain-marks, brush out with
the grain, for dark grain-marks brush out across the grain. For larger
prints, fir or pine plywood (the kind with the giant dark and light swoopy
grain prints HUMONGOUS grain (the dark areas print lighter and the light
(more porous) areas print darker. As noted, other woods also reproduce
their grain including birch, luan, mahogany, Spanish cedar, etc.



Love you all and love our community!



-- Mike



Mike Lyon
Kansas City, MO
http://mlyon.com

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Message 8
From: Clive Lewis
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:38:43 -0400
Subject: [Baren 31734] About your 'Message from the Moderator'
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Thank you for that, Wanda.

Clive

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Message 9
From: ArtSpotiB # aol.com
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:51:55 EDT
Subject: [Baren 31735] Re: message from the moderator
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Dear Wanda.

My sympathies to you for your having to post a reminder of excessive "I want
attention" postings!

I'm cheering for you here... always.

ArtSpot Out
Benny Alba in studio

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Message 10
From: Blog Manager
Date: 6 Sep 2006 03:55:08 -0000
Subject: [Baren 31736] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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This is an automatic update message being sent to [Baren] by the forum blog software.

The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (23 sites checked, five minutes before midnight Eastern time)

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Site Name: m.Lee Fine Art

Author: m.Lee
Item:
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com/2006/09/one-third-complete-originally-uploaded.html

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[Baren] members: if you have a printmaking blog (or a website with a published ATOM feed), and wish it to be included in this daily checklist, please write to the Baren Blog Manager at:
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For reference, sites/blogs currently being checked are:
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