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Message 11
From: "Barbara Carr"
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 06:12:48 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31291] Re: Alphabet ideas
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This is an amazing website! It gives me lots of ideas, though I
haven't tried to design my own alphabet -yet. I'd like to get in on
the alphabet exchange if there's room and if it happens. No problem
doing letters backwards -I almost like them better that way!
Thanks for the ref
another Barbara (C)

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Message 1
From: ArtfulCarol # aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:58:31 EDT
Subject: [Baren 31292] Re: Alphabet ideas
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Many many years ago when I was in an art class at Hunter College the
teacher David Smith gave a homework assignment to make a new alphabet.
As a rank beginner I didn't have a clue. But you get an assignment and you
do it. I wish I still had what I worked on then. Maybe it will turn up among
my old papers.


The next year on the cover on Time magazine was David Smith, who had just
died. He was evidently a well-known sculptor, but not to me. Afterwards when I
saw his sculpture pieces I understood that the assignment was to make a
group of shapes that belong or work together.
So I have a soft spot for the idea of doing an alphabet print exchange.
Carol Lyons.

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Message 2
From: "Lee Churchill"
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:47:29 -0600
Subject: [Baren 31293] Plexi-plates...
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Hey All,
When I learned to monoprint from plexi we buffed a layer of gum arabic on to the plate before adding colour - supposedly it acts as a release layer? And my experience with drypoint on plexi is that it needs a etching press, though I would love to hear ways of doing it without one, as I love the look but haven't experimented with it because of that.
Cheers,
Lee.

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Message 3
From: "Lee Churchill"
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:49:52 -0600
Subject: [Baren 31294] Plexi plates
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oh!
I've also used glycerin in water based screen printing inks to modify the texture/sheen/handling properties, so Bobbi, you might be remembering right after all!
Lee.

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Message 4
From: Bobbi Chukran
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:14:56 -0500
Subject: [Baren 31295] Re: Plexi plates
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>oh!
>I've also used glycerin in water based screen printing inks to
>modify the texture/sheen/handling properties, so Bobbi, you might be
>remembering right after all!
>

Hi Lee!

Do tell! Glad to know that some of my old memory is still intact. LOL.

Bobbi C.

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Message 5
From: Bobbi Chukran
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:18:54 -0500
Subject: [Baren 31296] The whole "water-based" thing
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Hi all,

OK, there's something that's been buggin me for a while. The reason
I've never got into watercolors is that I know they can be rewetted
and smear after they dry.

I know that there are permanent waterbased inks out on the market
now, thanks to ya'll, but most of the regular commercial printmaking
inks, like Speedball, are not permanent.

Am I making this too big of an issue? I'm always afraid some goof
will spill something on a print and ruin it. I think that one fact
is what has kept me using acrylics for my prints.

Do ya'll worry about this at all?

Thanks.

Bobbi C.
http://www.bobbichukran.com

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Message 6
From: "Marilynn Smith"
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:34:45 -0600
Subject: [Baren 31297] Re: Baren Digest (old) V36 #3543
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Yes, seems I am bogged down with stuff here and just seem to be half reading
my emails, so maybe i should sit back and be an observer for a bit. My
brain is in scramble mode. But my nudes will go out next week!
Marilynn

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Message 7
From: Annie Bissett
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 13:01:16 -0400
Subject: [Baren 31298] Re: Mixing Media, waterbased inks
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Bobbi is right - I've been saying mixing media, when what I'm really talking
about is mixing techniques. Moku hanga is such a clearly defined technique,
with everything worked out down to the smallest detail, that I feel like a
heretic just for occasionally using a paintbrush instead of a horsehair maru
bake, never mind collage!

Barbara, thanks for reading into my still-poorly-phrased question and
understanding that I was asking about matrix possibilities. And thank you
for providing such an excellent answer, an answer that I'm going to clip and
save for many months of future reference. I'm astounded at and inspired by
the breadth of experimentation you've done.

Where does one buy gum arabic? And does anyone know how glycerine behaves in
watercolors? Does it keep the pigments wet longer?

Best,
Annie

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Message 8
From: "Lee Churchill"
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:03:34 -0600
Subject: [Baren 31299] Re: The whole "water-based" thing
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" I'm always afraid some goof will spill something on a print and ruin it. I think that one fact is what has kept me using acrylics for my prints.

Hi Bobbi,
Watercolours can rewet and smear when they are new - this tendency lessens with age as the gum arabic binder hardens in light. It also has to do with the amount of pigment vs. binder and any watersoluble additives (i.e:honey). Also, if the watercolour is absorbed into the paper (seen with unsized papers) rather than sitting on the surface there seems to be less trouble. I have treated watercolours, about 100 years old, that after testing realized could be fully immersion washed with no risk.

In my experience though, whether a print can be resuced from a spill often has less to do with what the print was made of and more to do with what got spilled on it...one oil based etching at my museum had mud spattered on it (before we got it) that the marks couldn't be removed at all, even with mutiple washing, bleaches, etc.

So I do tend to use watercolour and waterbased, just for health and ease of cleanup. And there is always the old addage "you break it, you buy it!"
Cheers,
Lee.

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Message 9
From: "Lee Churchill"
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:19:49 -0600
Subject: [Baren 31300] Re: Plexi plates
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glycerin in water based screen printing inks
>>Do tell! Glad to know that some of my old memory is still intact.

Ouuu! Now you're asking me to streatch back aways, as I recall (possibly faultily) it was very small amounts to help keep the ink from drying to fast (I live in Alberta, Canada, the average household humidity in the winter is about 3%.) But use to much and the ink won't dry right at all...and in between the two seemed to cause slight changes to the sheen (though that was really quite accidental).
Lee

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Message 10
From: slinders # comcast.net
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:22:26 -0500
Subject: [Baren 31301] Re: Mixing Media, waterbased inks
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Annie Bissett wrote:

>
> Where does one buy gum arabic? And does anyone know how glycerine behaves in
> watercolors? Does it keep the pigments wet longer?

Hi, Annie,

As with all things 'printmaking', the source is
Graphic Chemical and Ink


Best wishes,
Sharen

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Message 11
From: "Ramsey Household"
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:25:29 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31302] Re: Mixing Media, waterbased inks
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And Daniel Smith, and at most local art supply stores. It is not hard to
find, unless you need large quantities. If you do need large sizes, then
mail order printmaking suppliers are the way to go.

Carolyn

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Message 12
From: "Barbara Carr"
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:27:43 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31303] Re: The whole "water-based" thing
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Bobbi-
I put my finished prints in see-through archival bags that prevent
such "accidents". Plus, the prints can be handled without getting
fingerprints on them. The website for some such bags is:
clearbags.com. Nothing should be able to lift the color from a print
or painting done in acrylic, I would think. I'd worry more about the
coffe/wine/stain issue. Good luck!
Barbara C

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Message 13
From: Blog Manager
Date: 14 Jul 2006 03:55:08 -0000
Subject: [Baren 31304] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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This is an automatic update message being sent to [Baren] by the forum blog software.

The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (22 sites checked, five minutes before midnight Eastern time)

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Site Name: m.Lee Fine Art

Author: m.Lee
Item: Wood Porn
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com/2006/07/wood-porn.html

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[Baren] members: if you have a printmaking blog (or a website with a published ATOM feed), and wish it to be included in this daily checklist, please write to the Baren Blog Manager at:
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For reference, sites/blogs currently being checked are:
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http://studiodiary.blogspot.com
http://larimerart.blogspot.com
http://artflights.blogspot.com
http://perfect-press.blogspot.com
http://printmakersmaterials.blogspot.com
http://mlyon.com/blog
http://room535.blogspot.com
http://mleeprints.blogspot.com
http://snowgum.blogspot.com
http://onthisblock.blogspot.com
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com
http://www.1000woodcuts.com
http://theitinerantartist.blogspot.com
http://PLawing-Printmaker.blogspot.com
http://readdevine.blogspot.com
http://mokuhankan.com/conversations
http://mokuhankan.com
http://belindadelpesco.blogspot.com
http://vizart.blogspot.com

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Message 14
From: Dave Bull
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 13:09:45 +0900
Subject: [Baren 31305] Photo journal of print under construction ...
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I got an email from printmaker Ryusei Okamoto this morning, letting me
know of a new set of pages on his website, showing the progress of this
current print ...

And it's in English!

http://ryusei.nobody.jp/diary-1.htm

Dave

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Message 15
From: "Robert"
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 23:31:07 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31306] Re: Mixing Media, waterbased inks
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W&N makes a gum Arabic they sell with water colors. You can find it on Cheep
Joes or any of the web stores.
Yes, glycerin keeps wc wet.

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Message 16
From: "Robert"
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 23:33:43 -0700
Subject: [Baren 31307] RE: The whole "water-based" thing
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Ad a couple of drops of acrylic medium, such as GAC 100, to your W#C and it
will stay when you rewet. That way you can paint over or in our case, print
over with no runs.
RC

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