Today's postings
- [Baren 30740] Re: Still looking for some kind of press (Charles Morgan)
- [Baren 30741] Prints vs woodcuts (baren_member # barenforum.org)
- [Baren 30742] Re: (ArtSpotiB # aol.com)
- [Baren 30743] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification (Blog Manager)
- [Baren 30744] Re: (Barbara Mason)
- [Baren 30745] Ref : naming plywood ("Harry French")
Message 1
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:49:57 -0700
Subject: [Baren 30740] Re: Still looking for some kind of press
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Robert and Bobbi,
I have found that a marble rolling pin works just fine for smaller plates
... Most rolling pins have a very small rod that easily bends when you put
too much pressure on the handles. So for mine, I replaced the rod by a
larger diameter one ... try 1/4 or 3/8 inch rod. Do not use "ready rod",
the stuff that is threaded full length. Most hardware and building supply
stores will carry smooth iron rod in short lengths in various diameters.
First I had to pull the handles off the old rod ... just hold the two
handles and sort of pull/twist ... the handles are usually just pressed on.
Then pull the plastic "bearings" out of the ends of the rollers. Drill a
hole the same size as your new rod through the "bearings" and then replace
them in the ends of the roller. The handles on my rolling pin were wood, so
I just drilled them out to accept the larger rod ... use a drill just a wee
bit smaller than the rod so you will get a good tight fit. Then I pressed
one handle on the end of the new rod, put it back through the "bearings"
and measured for length ... cut off the rod and force the other handle into
place. Thing works fine.
The plastic pipe should work all right, but you may find it flexes in the
middle. You can really stiffen it (and make it heavier) by standing it on
end and filling it with concrete ... buy a bag of pre-mix at the hardware
store. After it sets up for a couple of days, it won't flex any more.
Cheers ..... Charles
I have found that a marble rolling pin works just fine for smaller plates
... Most rolling pins have a very small rod that easily bends when you put
too much pressure on the handles. So for mine, I replaced the rod by a
larger diameter one ... try 1/4 or 3/8 inch rod. Do not use "ready rod",
the stuff that is threaded full length. Most hardware and building supply
stores will carry smooth iron rod in short lengths in various diameters.
First I had to pull the handles off the old rod ... just hold the two
handles and sort of pull/twist ... the handles are usually just pressed on.
Then pull the plastic "bearings" out of the ends of the rollers. Drill a
hole the same size as your new rod through the "bearings" and then replace
them in the ends of the roller. The handles on my rolling pin were wood, so
I just drilled them out to accept the larger rod ... use a drill just a wee
bit smaller than the rod so you will get a good tight fit. Then I pressed
one handle on the end of the new rod, put it back through the "bearings"
and measured for length ... cut off the rod and force the other handle into
place. Thing works fine.
The plastic pipe should work all right, but you may find it flexes in the
middle. You can really stiffen it (and make it heavier) by standing it on
end and filling it with concrete ... buy a bag of pre-mix at the hardware
store. After it sets up for a couple of days, it won't flex any more.
Cheers ..... Charles
Message 2
From: baren_member # barenforum.org
Date: 20 Apr 2006 22:13:35 -0000
Subject: [Baren 30741] Prints vs woodcuts
Message posted from: Dale Phelps
"I call my work woodcuts or original woodcuts, leaving the
cloudy term "print" completely out of any of my work"
Half of my prints are carved on Sintra, a plastic used by sign companies. I have always used the term 'relief prints'. Woodcuts sounds great, Linocuts very good but there is something lacking in "Sintracuts"
Dale Phelps, Waterloo,IA
"I call my work woodcuts or original woodcuts, leaving the
cloudy term "print" completely out of any of my work"
Half of my prints are carved on Sintra, a plastic used by sign companies. I have always used the term 'relief prints'. Woodcuts sounds great, Linocuts very good but there is something lacking in "Sintracuts"
Dale Phelps, Waterloo,IA
Message 3
From: ArtSpotiB # aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:17:58 EDT
Subject: [Baren 30742]
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This conversation regarding computer "printer" and printmaking is a delight
to read.
Has anyone considered a computer printer really a photograph machine? Like a
glicee, it reproduces thru a form of photography, maybe? Or perhaps I'm wrong?
The whole question is huge. Photographers originally seemed to want to be
classified with "prints". There was so much disagreement to the idea that
eventually photography became it's own class.
I understand that several major printmaking roups now accept
computer/"digital" prints.
I have noticed that many printmakers who came up through the traditional way
tend to "see" and create prints that look, well, "printerly". Those who are
newer don't have the same sensibility.
Could some of us please talk about this? I sit on the fence, personally.
Thanks.
Benny
to read.
Has anyone considered a computer printer really a photograph machine? Like a
glicee, it reproduces thru a form of photography, maybe? Or perhaps I'm wrong?
The whole question is huge. Photographers originally seemed to want to be
classified with "prints". There was so much disagreement to the idea that
eventually photography became it's own class.
I understand that several major printmaking roups now accept
computer/"digital" prints.
I have noticed that many printmakers who came up through the traditional way
tend to "see" and create prints that look, well, "printerly". Those who are
newer don't have the same sensibility.
Could some of us please talk about this? I sit on the fence, personally.
Thanks.
Benny
Message 4
From: Blog Manager
Date: 21 Apr 2006 03:55:05 -0000
Subject: [Baren 30743] Baren Member blogs: Update Notification
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This is an automatic update message being sent to [Baren] by the forum blog software.
The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (17 sites checked, just before midnight Eastern time)
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Site Name: Woodblock Dreams
Author: Annie B
Item: Back On the Ropes
http://woodblockdreams.blogspot.com/2006/04/back-on-ropes.html
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Site Name: pressing-issues
Author: Ellen Shipley
Item: Yellow Hippo
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com/2006/04/yellow-hippo.html
Author: Ellen Shipley
Item: Lime Hippo
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com/2006/04/lime-hippo.html
Author: Ellen Shipley
Item: Paleo Umi for Will
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com/2006/04/paleo-umi-for-will.html
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[Baren] members: if you have a printmaking blog (or a website with a published ATOM feed), and wish it to be included in this daily checklist, please write to the Baren Blog Manager at:
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The following new entries were found on the listed printmaker's websites during the past 24 hours. (17 sites checked, just before midnight Eastern time)
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Site Name: Woodblock Dreams
Author: Annie B
Item: Back On the Ropes
http://woodblockdreams.blogspot.com/2006/04/back-on-ropes.html
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Site Name: pressing-issues
Author: Ellen Shipley
Item: Yellow Hippo
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com/2006/04/yellow-hippo.html
Author: Ellen Shipley
Item: Lime Hippo
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com/2006/04/lime-hippo.html
Author: Ellen Shipley
Item: Paleo Umi for Will
http://pressing-issues.blogspot.com/2006/04/paleo-umi-for-will.html
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[Baren] members: if you have a printmaking blog (or a website with a published ATOM feed), and wish it to be included in this daily checklist, please write to the Baren Blog Manager at:
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Message 5
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:56:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 30744]
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Benny,
This is sure a sore spot for printmakers....but we have to consider the computer a tool just like a plate and a press...just different.
Print Arts Northwest decided to accept digitial prints if they were conceived and manipulated totally in the computer, that is not a photo that had been altered. We also like to see them looking as much like traditional prints as possible so not printed on shiny paper. However, I don't think we would turn shiny paper away if the work was good enough. We are starting to see really good computer work, but not that much of it yet.
I learned all the processes as a student printmaker for 5 or 6 years and think I would not be doing what I do now as well if I had not done so, you are right that having the traditional background does make you think a certain way. However, I think we must embrace the new but not forget the old. After all moku hanga is one of the oldest printmaing processes and we are sure working to keep it alive and well on this forum.
I think working in reverse and planning layers of color and overlap make print,akers see the world a little differently. I have always told my husband artists see things differently than the general public...if there is a tree, the non-artist registers "tree" and that is that. The artist sees shape, pattern, color, dark and light, and then sees "tree". It is a learned thing or maybe a thing that is normal and most unlearn it when they are about 8 or 10.
Best to all,
Barbara
This is sure a sore spot for printmakers....but we have to consider the computer a tool just like a plate and a press...just different.
Print Arts Northwest decided to accept digitial prints if they were conceived and manipulated totally in the computer, that is not a photo that had been altered. We also like to see them looking as much like traditional prints as possible so not printed on shiny paper. However, I don't think we would turn shiny paper away if the work was good enough. We are starting to see really good computer work, but not that much of it yet.
I learned all the processes as a student printmaker for 5 or 6 years and think I would not be doing what I do now as well if I had not done so, you are right that having the traditional background does make you think a certain way. However, I think we must embrace the new but not forget the old. After all moku hanga is one of the oldest printmaing processes and we are sure working to keep it alive and well on this forum.
I think working in reverse and planning layers of color and overlap make print,akers see the world a little differently. I have always told my husband artists see things differently than the general public...if there is a tree, the non-artist registers "tree" and that is that. The artist sees shape, pattern, color, dark and light, and then sees "tree". It is a learned thing or maybe a thing that is normal and most unlearn it when they are about 8 or 10.
Best to all,
Barbara
Message 6
From: "Harry French"
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 08:07:11 +0100
Subject: [Baren 30745] Ref : naming plywood
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Greetings Bareners,
Many thanks to Tom and Wouter who have solved my problem of naming plywoods that I use. My only task now is to take time to trawl through my web site to correct a few facts.
Is there no end to the collective knowledge of Baren?
Harry
Lincoln
England
UK
www.harryfrenchartworks.co.uk
Many thanks to Tom and Wouter who have solved my problem of naming plywoods that I use. My only task now is to take time to trawl through my web site to correct a few facts.
Is there no end to the collective knowledge of Baren?
Harry
Lincoln
England
UK
www.harryfrenchartworks.co.uk