Today's postings

  1. [Baren 29794] Re: Baren Digest (old) V34 #3327 (jlkornett # aol.com)
  2. [Baren 29795] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V34 #3321 (Jan 3, 2006) (GWohlken)
  3. [Baren 29796] Apology, and Missing Message (GWohlken)
  4. [Baren 29797] pastels for pigment (Nancy Osadchuk)
  5. [Baren 29798] RE: Robert's Sennelier pastel question ("Jennifer Worsley")
  6. [Baren 29799] Re: Robert's Sennelier pastel question ("Robert Canaga")
  7. [Baren 29800] Re: Baren Digest (old) V34 #3327 ("Marilynn Smith")
  8. [Baren 29801] Re: Baren Digest (old) V34 #3327 ("Mindy Wilson")
  9. [Baren 29802] Re: Apology, and Missing Message ("Mindy Wilson")
  10. [Baren 29803] Re: DOG CARD (Connie)
  11. [Baren 29804] thoughts on creating my Year of the dog ("Mindy Wilson")
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Message 1
From: jlkornett # aol.com
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 08:36:05 EST
Subject: [Baren 29794] Re: Baren Digest (old) V34 #3327
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Hi Everyone
My name is Judith Kornett. I am a printmaker who left the process twenty
years ago because of health concerns. Now I am learning about the latest
non-toxic materials and am ready to leap back in. I have signed up for the latest
exchange. My subject will be a bird (inspired in part by one of Morris Graves'
seagulls. I cant tell you any more that that right now because I am still
working on the drawing. I look forward to being part of the forum.
Judith
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Message 2
From: GWohlken
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 10:55:26 -0500
Subject: [Baren 29795] Re: New Baren Digest (HTML) V34 #3321 (Jan 3, 2006)
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This message was deleted as it was an accidental posting of the entire prior digest
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Message 3
From: GWohlken
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 11:04:03 -0500
Subject: [Baren 29796] Apology, and Missing Message
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I greatly apologize, Bareners. The whole digest slipped out from
under my searching fingers before I knew what hit. I am trying to
send Marissa's message which was missing from the html digest this
morning. Let me try again. Here is her message:

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Thank you Mindy. Some of them are on western paper but some of them
are on thin Japanese paper (I can't afford the thick stuff!).

Etsy is mostly a sight for crafters but it is possible to sell work
there and it is cheap and easy to use. I love the layout.

~marissa lee

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Gayle/Archivist
Northeast Ohio
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Message 4
From: Nancy Osadchuk
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 09:19:57 -0700
Subject: [Baren 29797] pastels for pigment
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Robert I have done just that when I couldn't seem to get the right colour. Pastels are water soluble and only have a small amount of gum tragacanth as binder. Some pigments need alcohol to grind smoothly, same as other powdered pigments. Give it a try.

Nancy O.
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Message 5
From: "Jennifer Worsley"
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 10:16:31 -0700
Subject: [Baren 29798] RE: Robert's Sennelier pastel question
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Robert, I am interested to hear how the Sennelier pastels work as pigment
for hanga. I am just learning hanga, but I do a lot of pastel work and make
my own pastels, so I know what goes into them.

The Senneliers probably have a bit of gum tragacanth in them-but not much,
because they are very soft. Pastels also have quite a bit of inert
(colorless) chalk in them, which will probably weaken the color and make it
opaque. They are often about 1/2 raw pigment powder, 1/2 chalk, depending
on the color. So...if you want strong colors from powder, you might get raw
pigment powder on its own, which is in a lot of art supply stores.


Jennifer Worsley
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Message 6
From: "Robert Canaga"
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 10:29:00 -0800
Subject: [Baren 29799] Re: Robert's Sennelier pastel question
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Robert,
I use pastel in all sorts of mediums but I find Sennelier not as good as
Unison and even they have chunks in the reds and some of the greens.
There is a company in New York called TriMar. They market pigments that are
consistently ground perfectly and ready to use.
800-874-6271 Tri-Mar Enterprises (Brooklyn NY)
RC
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Message 7
From: "Marilynn Smith"
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 11:34:53 -0800
Subject: [Baren 29800] Re: Baren Digest (old) V34 #3327
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Never thought of grinding up pastels. But they must have a binder in them,
that might give you trouble. The dry pigments from Japan sold at the Baren
mall are very low in cost and lovely to use. The postage might be a lot,
but otherwise it is well worth the investment. If I listened to myself I
would say, use what is meant to be used for the best results. Once again I
used a heavier western paper, and struggled with it. I wanted to get my
doggie done, so I used a heavy western paper, if I had the patience to wait
until I could order or get to the city to buy something better it would have
been better. I would highly suggest using the right pigments, paper and
than your frustration will be lower.
Good luck and happy experimenting.
Marilynn
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Message 8
From: "Mindy Wilson"
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 12:53:45 -0700
Subject: [Baren 29801] Re: Baren Digest (old) V34 #3327
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Welcome Judith! It is wonderful to have you here! Have a great time working on your seagull and I cannot wait to work on my next image and see yours.

Mindy Wilson
SCBWI Member
http://www.artwanted.com/Mwilson sample images of many genres
http://www.solisstyle.com/blog/?u=Mwilson visual blog
Author of In a Parrot's Shoes illustrated by Ed Woodward III
Illustrator for The Halloween Tree written by Tina Roark
found here: http://www.synergebooks.com under the children's section.
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Message 9
From: "Mindy Wilson"
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 12:57:58 -0700
Subject: [Baren 29802] Re: Apology, and Missing Message
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Marissa,

I just think your patterns and themes would be fantastic for the whole paper
craft world for scrapbookers, gift wrap and stationery items!

I really am very interested in Etsy too. I was thinking of printing cards
to sell there too. I see most things are all hand created, but there are
some prints too. ( I think I would ask about it first before printing them
for that purpose.)

Thank you for sharing your work.
Mindy Wilson
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> Thank you Mindy. Some of them are on western paper but some of them
> are on thin Japanese paper (I can't afford the thick stuff!).
>
> Etsy is mostly a sight for crafters but it is possible to sell work
> there and it is cheap and easy to use. I love the layout.
>
> ~marissa lee
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Message 10
From: Connie
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 16:40:50 -0700
Subject: [Baren 29803] Re: DOG CARD
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Thanks for the offer, Jan, but I've patched your dog card up. The chunk
was missing from the folded corner, not anywhere near the image. There
is still a little piece missing, but it works fine for me. Hopefully the
post office won't send me any more mangled puppy dogs!

Connie Giancarli Brewer
Gillette, WY
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Message 11
From: "Mindy Wilson"
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 21:53:32 -0700
Subject: [Baren 29804] thoughts on creating my Year of the dog
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Hello Bareners,

I cut on my Year of the Dog block Friday eve and Sat am. Today I began printing...whew. I am happy with some aspects of the print and not so with others. I have much to learn about registry and when you see how simple my image is...some may wonder why I couldn't get it right! :0) I have so many more to print, but will carry on another day. Currently I have a couple color schemes going on. I have settled on one now.

Sigh, perhaps tomorrow will bring a new perspective on my little pooch. He is just so different from the one that I'd created in my brain. Whimsical for sure though.

I'm pleased that my husband was active giving his thoughts about the image. Typically, my artistic views are so far from his it was great to have his insight.

Mindy Wilson
SCBWI Member
http://www.artwanted.com/Mwilson sample images of many genres
http://www.solisstyle.com/blog/?u=Mwilson visual blog

Author of In a Parrot's Shoes illustrated by Ed Woodward III
Illustrator for The Halloween Tree written by Tina Roark
found here: http://www.synergebooks.com under the children's section.