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Message 1
From: Jeanne Norman Chase
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 09:15:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 25295] Oil paint on Surface
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Dear Baren People

Houston, I have a problem!
It seems that my printmaking is not consistent.
One print that I do is ok, the oil paint merges with the paper. All is well in my printmaking kingdom.
THEN, as of now, when I apply the ink it seems to sit on top of the paper and when it dries it feels rough and looks terrible. What is the problem, what is my plight???
I so use gel to thin the oil, which is usually either Daniel Smith or Graphic Chemical etching ink. Anyone else have this problem??? Hey, Barbara, grand wizard of printmaking technicalities!!!

I know that MIKE will read this and say, "Why doesn't she us watercolor?????". And I say, "Because I am a chicken".

Frustrated in Florida
Jeanne N.

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Message 2
From: "marilynn smih"
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 09:25:54 -0700
Subject: [Baren 25296] RE: Oil paint on Surface
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Jeanne, is your paper damp? Oil will sit on top of dry paper more than
damp paper. Also what is your surface umm whatpaper and which side of it?
Are you using a slick paper that will not absorb the ink? And what is to be
scared of??? Watercolor is just paint or should I say ink. Bad prints and
mistakes can be torn to bits if you are embarrassed. Trying new things is
how we learn and grow. Surely such a capable artist as you knows that????
Marilynn

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Message 3
From: FurryPressII # aol.com
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:40:47 EDT
Subject: [Baren 25297] Re: Oil paint on Surface
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sounds like you are not applying the ink to the block in an evan manner.
you are putting too much ink on the block in one roll. Proper inking is just
as important in oil based printing as it is in water based inks.

john

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Message 4
From: Barbara Mason
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 13:50:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 25298] Re: Oil paint on Surface
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Jeanne,
When you print one layer over the other with oil based ink, it does tend to sit on top and look shiny. If you have different gels mixed into the ink, they may not like one another, so I suggest you use setswell only in your ink, or if not setswell then only one kind of gel.. Setswell is formulated to not make shiny spots on your prints, especially if you do large color areas. The manufacturer recommends 5%, but I have used as much as 25% with no problems. Even years and years later the ink looks fine. You want the same amount of gel (setswell or whatever you are using) in each color of ink, if you use more or less in one color it will resist or at least not be accepted as well as if all the ink has the same amount of gel in it.

If you are only using one color and having inconsistent results, I think I am at a loss. But I gurarantee it is the ink and not the paper. So get new ink and start over. I have solved many problems by tossing my ink and starting over with a new mixture. I cannot remember how many times I have asked my husband to remind me "New Ink" when I am tearing my hair out. I also add transparent base to my ink, as I like it a little more translucent, but this is a personal preference. Also when you ink your block, be careful, work from the middle out if using a small roller and use many passes from the slab of ink. Thinner layers of ink print better, no question. If your ink is too thick on the slab or block, it is always a problem.
Let me know if this info helps. Are you printing by hand or with a press????
Barbara

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Message 5
From: FurryPressII # aol.com
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 17:08:22 EDT
Subject: [Baren 25299] Re: Oil paint on Surface
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Also you can add "dull it" to oil based ink if you are printing multi layers
of ink such as reduction blocks. Graphic chem. has this.

I have been proofing three fonts of wood type I cut recently. As these are
cut on wood engraving blocks I made my self some have faults I would not
accept if I purchased them my self. But then $2 Vs $40 dollars is a worth while
trade off. That is the out of pocket cost but I have to throw in my labor for
free. But I have been getting better at making the blocks. Even store
bought blocks often need make ready to print well. But given i have to run out to
graphic hem to buy the blocks so even if i throw in the time to make the
blocks i am not to far off in my time usage

Some times I wish I was born in a different time period I suspect I would
have a job with my engraving skills if I was born in the 1850's. who knows.

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Message 6
From: Bette Norcross Wappner
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:59:03 -0400
Subject: [Baren 25300] Re: Art and Politics
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thanks for the reminder jeanne. great idea. we should be informed, but
After 5 would seem to be more appropriate for this. i'm not getting any
After 5 emails. is it active? if so, maybe i need to sign up again.

bette.

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Message 7
From: Jeanne Norman Chase
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 02:38:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 25301] Re: Art and Politics
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Hi Bette

Better check with somebody, Gayle maybe. After Fives have been increasing since my little tid bit.

Did I tell you that my gorgeous Bird Of Paradise is blooming again??? This time I have two of them. I think they must like it at my studio as at home my hubby just cannot get the one we have to bloom. I guess my Bird loves me!!!!!

Happy Printing, I am having a heck of a time with my Haiku print, not the Haiku just the print.

Luv

Jeanne

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