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Message 1
From: GraphChem # aol.com
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:33:18 EST
Subject: [Baren 24719] Re: Photoshop and other questions
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T.N. Lawrence now has the English Brayers made with what they call Treothane
(sp?) - they are green instead of yellow and should have a longer shelf life
than the old brayers. You can get replacement rolls for the handle if they
are not the very old handles which were configured differently. If you want a
full roller, I recommend rubber which can be made with a soft (20) durometer.
Polyurethane has a shelf life of about 7 years and is very unstable in the
softer ranges and may not last that long.
Susan

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Message 2
From: Reneeaugrin # aol.com
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:14:00 EST
Subject: [Baren 24720] Books
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Hi Barbara and all,

I will be sending you some examples of 'maze' books in the regular mail. I
have enjoyed using these in my classes, sometimes we incorporate a little
printmaking!

Cordially yours,

Renee U.

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Message 3
From: Jsf73 # aol.com
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 12:12:14 EST
Subject: [Baren 24721] Shunga arrived
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I would like to say how much I loved everyones work in the shunga exchange,
it just arrived.

Gayle, how will you work the vampire into the four elements? Sunlight
representing fire destroying your vampire... or is that too vampire unfriendly for
your tastes?

I have a lot to strive for if I want to participate in any other exchanges
and not feel really guilty about it....

again everyone great stuff...

Oh and p.s. April, are those flies smiling??? Or is that me just projecting
my own feelings into them?

John Furr

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Message 4
From: b.patera # att.net
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 18:22:56 +0000
Subject: [Baren 24722] Re: puzzle arrived
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Many thanks Maria, Barbara, and all the other carvers. Puzzle print arrived and is awesome.


Thanks Again,

Barbara P.

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Message 5
From: "Maria Arango"
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:46:12 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24723] RE: puzzle
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Hi Charles,

The puzzle page now contains a breakdown of time and money spent for
those brave souls that wish to undertake this type of project; 146 hours
in all give or take a lunch break. The little things add up, in terms of
time, but it's all "love-time". This was possibly the most fun project I
have directed in my life and if someone would have mentioned two years
ago that I would have been voluntarily coordinating a massive project
"just for fun", I would have told them they were nuts. I'm not a "group
activity" person at all, but this wonderful project taught me a valuable
lesson about playing with others.

The next one is in the works, I'm in the thinking stage and I simply
have too many ideas; will wait until the good ones kick the bad ones out
of my brain.

As far as the tubes, yes, it was quite a sight, I'm sure. The Post
Office employees turned different colors until they saw that most of
them already had postage printed and attached (www.stamps.com!). Other
than that I'm used to being searched and mildly harrassed on the road
due to the color-security-alerts; we have a major dam that feeds water
to the SW US and those fellows just don't seem to like trailers and the
4 huge (and heavy) tubes I use for weighing down the legs of my tent
(pvc pipe filled with rebar and concrete).

Anyhow, looking forward to three weeks in the studio, uninterrupted.
Best get those exchanges done!

One note on the baren vs. press pressure thing. When printing oil based
inks on dry western paper with a baren or a press, it is fairly easy to
see (technical/physical explanations aside) who wins hands down. You
simply cannot put as much pressure with a baren as with a press
(etching), not even close. I have a standard baren, a ball-bearing baren
and several other assorted tools I use; press wins for blackest blacks
and even pressure. I also found it MUCH easier to transfer water based
pigment on dampened Japanese paper than oil inks on any paper.

Maria, having spent three weekends in the "elements" from rainy 35F to
scorching 110F in a three week span. Oh how I love the SW "spring"!


Maria Arango
www.1000woodcuts.com
Las Vegas Nevada USA

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Message 6
From: Charles Morgan
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 13:39:23 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24724] Re: puzzle
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Maria wrote:
>The puzzle page now contains a breakdown of time and money spent for
>those brave souls that wish to undertake this type of project; 146 hours
>in all give or take a lunch break. The little things add up, in terms of
>time, but it's all "love-time". This was possibly the most fun project I
>have directed in my life and if someone would have mentioned two years
>ago that I would have been voluntarily coordinating a massive project
>"just for fun", I would have told them they were nuts. I'm not a "group
>activity" person at all, but this wonderful project taught me a valuable
>lesson about playing with others.

It was fun thinking about it and working on it. You can feel pleased that
so many participants thoroughly enjoyed the project.

But WOW, 146 hours .... That's about one month of full time (35-40 hours
per week) labor. Now THAT is true dedication. We can just about all spring
for a few hundred bucks now and then for a project, but the TIME is what is
irreplaceable.


>The next one is in the works, I'm in the thinking stage and I simply
>have too many ideas; will wait until the good ones kick the bad ones out
>of my brain.

We are all eagerly awaiting your demonic genius !!!!!


>As far as the tubes, yes, it was quite a sight, I'm sure. The Post
>Office employees turned different colors until they saw that most of
>them already had postage printed and attached (www.stamps.com!). Other
>than that I'm used to being searched and mildly harrassed on the road
>due to the color-security-alerts; we have a major dam that feeds water
>to the SW US and those fellows just don't seem to like trailers and the
>4 huge (and heavy) tubes I use for weighing down the legs of my tent
>(pvc pipe filled with rebar and concrete).

Ahhhh, the vision brings a smile to all our lips .........

>Anyhow, looking forward to three weeks in the studio, uninterrupted.
>Best get those exchanges done!
>
>One note on the baren vs. press pressure thing. When printing oil based
>inks on dry western paper with a baren or a press, it is fairly easy to
>see (technical/physical explanations aside) who wins hands down. You
>simply cannot put as much pressure with a baren as with a press
>(etching), not even close. I have a standard baren, a ball-bearing baren
>and several other assorted tools I use; press wins for blackest blacks
>and even pressure. I also found it MUCH easier to transfer water based
>pigment on dampened Japanese paper than oil inks on any paper.

Yep, I agree ... for the doubters, try doing some blind embossing on dry
paper ... e.g. BFK Rives ... and see how you make out with any simple press
vs a baren. Put your bathroom scale on a table in the position you would
use for printing and measure how much total pressure you are applying while
you print with a baren.

Cheers ........... Charles

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Message 7
From: GWohlken
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 18:41:39 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24725] Vampires and the Elements
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John Furr wrote:

> Gayle, how will you work the vampire into the four elements? Sunlight
> representing fire destroying your vampire... or is that too vampire
> unfriendly for
> your tastes?

John, I'm not certain that vampires being destroyed by the sun makes
for good haiku in the traditional sense. But if I work at it, who
knows? :-)

~Gayle

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