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Message 1
From: GWohlken
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:25:33 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24641] James Mundie's message re a query about prints of Lionel Lindsay
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From James Mundie:

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Just a note regarding James Mundie's message which he tried to send and
which didn't show in the last two html style digests. The message
DID show in the "old" digests, but in case you didn't catch it before
deleteting the "old" digests, just check the archives (#2589) for
James' message (Message #7).

http://www.barenforum.org/archives/vol26/v26_2589.html

~Gayle

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Message 2
From: JEANNE CHASE
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:06:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24642] Re: New Exchange #21 Size
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I agree with Jan, 9x8 is just too small for a print with image and haiku.
I do not mind making a larger print, in fact, the larger the better for this type of exchange. Sounds like a winner to me!!!!

Jeanne N

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Message 3
From: Sharri LaPierre
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:26:27 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24643] Re: Baren Digest (old) V26 #2589
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How about just translating Haiku into images. Does there have to be
text? I was thinking "visual haiku" since we are visual artists and
most of us are not poets, Bette being the exception. If you insist on
text, could it be printed (inkjet or laser) onto a vellum overlay?
But, to answer someone's question about printing on your inkjet, that
works just fine - I do it all the time. Digital has become part of my
woodblock images in at least a dozen works. I generally print onto the
print paper first, and then do my woodblock or etching. If you want to
do it the other way around, just be sure your ink is dry - or you could
have a bigger mess than those melted gelatin rollers, which
incidentally, sounded like a Dali to me. I've put just about every
paper there is thru my printer, and none seems to have had an adverse
effect, and they make digital print papers now if you feel more
comfortable using those. Check out any of the paper distributers:
Atlantic, Dolphin, Dan Smith, and all those that have just flown out of
my feeble mind and whoever you are, I apologize.

Too much corned beef & cabbage, I think,
Sharri

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Message 4
From: Julie Sparks
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:45:05 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24644] Re: EXCHANGE #21
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I thought Sharri's idea of a vellum overlay is a good one. So many
possibilites here!

Being an amateur illuminator in addition to printmaking, I think the
combination of text and image in a print could have some fascinating
outcomes. Just look at William Blake's interpretations of the
problem--we still don't know exactly what he did. :) One more
possibility for incorporating text... how about Xerox transfer? You'd
have to copy the text on a transparency first to get the reverse, but
could use either typewritten text or calligraphy. I haven't tried it
myself yet, but this is an excuse to experiment, right?

--
Julie C. Sparks
Willamette University
Salem, Oregon
www.jcsparks.com/painted

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Message 5
From: "marilynn smih"
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 12:25:44 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24645] Re: Theme for Exchange #21...
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I'm with Julio. I thought we would be illustrating the haiku not carving
the words?????? Either way I will give letters a go if that is what
everyone wants. I choose Haiku over the 4 elements.
What is a ghost print?
And if we do Haiku could you define the poetry style so i get it right. Wen
I write I just let words flow, not considering style. thanks.
Marilynn

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Message 6
From: "marilynn smih"
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 12:31:37 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24646] Re: graduating to moku hanga
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Diane, you use shape well and that will help you to translate designs into
hanga. I come from a watercolor background as well. I missed color and I
missed using transparency and am loving my first reduction hanga block as
with this method I use both. I love the color overlays and seeing yellow
and blue turn green and can't wait for the blue to have a red overlay,
hoping for violet. If you like carving your linos you will love hanga once
you get a good start with it.
Marilynn

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Message 7
From: "marilynn smih"
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 12:35:44 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24647] RE: exchange 21
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Oh apologies for so many messages, I should read all my mail before I answer
Baren. the idea of combining a haiku about the 4 elements and illustrating
it appeals to me. We could each include a copy of the poetry with our
print, lovely idea in my mind.
marilynn

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Message 8
From: "marilynn smih"
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 12:54:50 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24648] Re: New Exchange #21 Size
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Opps you can yell at me for all this mail, wanna get my opinion in tho. I
like 9x8 image size with a seperate piece for the poetry. Or the type could
be written on top of the illustration.
Marilynn

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Message 9
From: Jsf73 # aol.com
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:22:42 EST
Subject: [Baren 24649] Re: Baren Digest (old) V26 #2589
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Hmm interesting thoughts on ideas for exchange 21... but one thing to
consider is that imposing too many restrictions on the theme, or text and how text
must be combined with the work limits creativity.

Half the fun of such an exchange would be to see just how people incorporate
text into their work, or if they attempt to do a strictly visual Haiku. I dont
know how you would do a non text Haiku, but surely someone has an idea... I
had thought of adding letterpress type over the image in a seperate printing
myself... but as an overleaf printed on something like glassine sounds
interesting too.

Demanding a specific theme for the haiku would be limiting as well, it could
be too limiting to those writing haiku, or like myself those who would borrow
haiku from someone willing to allow me to use their haiku in my work.

I had been hoping to find an open theme so I could do anything my heart
desired, so you see that coming out in the selection for a theme for exchange 21...


As for size of sprint I still lean towards the smaller 9x? size since haiku
are very short by nature... and I had been thinking of doing an engraving if I
signed up... my engravings have turned out better than my woodblocks...

John Furr

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Message 10
From: Aqua4tis # aol.com
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 19:46:03 EST
Subject: [Baren 24650] Re: Exchange #21 Theme
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i think "the printmaker" would make an excellent future theme
georga

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Message 11
From: "phare-camp # imp-s.com"
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 21:22:09 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24651] RE: New Baren Digest (Text) V26 #2589 (Mar 18, 2004)
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Oh hey, I think the Haiku should be written in any language the artist
chooses and that we might make the colophon an english tranlation. How the
text is incorporated should be open; just think of the creative
possibilities! And remember, incorporated text becomes a compositional
issue, so the overall shape the body of the text creates becomes a
compositional element!

Patti

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