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Message 1
From: "cjpiers"
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 05:52:33 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24606] Re: next exchange
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Well I'll throw out a suggestion for the next theme...how about picking from
the four elements - earth, wind, fire, or water. A person could maybe
incorporate all, use two, or just use one element.

Connie P.

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Message 2
From: "Patsy Wilson"
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 08:08:02 -0600
Subject: [Baren 24607] Re: next exchange
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I love that idea, or whatever derivation may be pulled out of the 4
directional elements theme -- count me in!

Patsy Wilson
(used to be a subscriber way back in 98, but happily rediscovered Baren this
last week!)

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Message 3
From: JEANNE CHASE
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 06:53:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24608] Re: exchange 19
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Yes, please, please put Exchange on the Gallery. I can hardly wait to see this one. As Carol Artfully put it. I was just too young to be in this one????

Jeanne N. (says blushing)

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Message 4
From: "HARRY FRENCH"
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 15:08:42 -0000
Subject: [Baren 24609] Ref : Teaching an old dog new tricks
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Carol,

I have just printed the first colour of the Lefties edition on Zerkall paper. I've never seen identical prints on my drying line for years, but I have promised to keep them all the same. Just in case several prints misbehave themselves by changing colours, jumping into different papers, or run into another edition I have printed many extras. I can ethically call these escapees "variants" from advice taken in the forum!

Baren,

It's Springtime on the Lincolnshire landscape : one third turquoise sky and two thirds,arable lush green fields with wayside wild primulas and daffodils. Today, cycling to the studio I passed my beloved ploughed fields and felt as though the whole of the forum was trundling behind me on their clapped out bicycles, chattering merrily about woodblock prints.

I stopped to do a sketch of the winter wheat that is growing well....... will the sketch end as a new woodblock edition ; a variant ; a monoprint or could the original block be water coloured and re-drawn in ink ? (Frank noticed the latter technique on my website...oh dear! ).

Thanks for all your advice and comments.

Regards,

Harry

St. Patrick's Day

Lincoln

England UK

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Message 5
From: "marilynn smih"
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 07:35:22 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24610] RE: Ref : Teaching an old dog new tricks
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Ah Harry i wondered if those pieces on your site were watercolor with ink,
wonderful and a media I love as well. You write beautiful descriptions as
well, another poet perhaps? What has happened to after five. When I tried
to send through anemail from my saved addresses it never arrived. I do not
know the code needed to send one. Maybe someone can just start us up again
and Harry you could tell us about England.

Yes for the next exchange i like the 4 elements, I want to do this one.
Have to check the size and pray that I brought a block large enough for it.
Ironically I mentioned that we would need a theme for our next exchange to
the husband. He said how about something to do with water? Also this dear
husband of mine was put out with me for not doing the shunga exchange, he
wants to see them online when you get them up. I had to tell him our gypsy
lifestyle made it hard to do.

I am full of art thoughts to day. Yesterday I had a breif disagreement with
a person in the pool. So opinion???? When you get a high price, like
$8,000. for a painting does that make it good? Does that mean it is worth
that amount of money? Is the price we get the measure of how good the piece
is? Will it hold value better if we get more money now for our art? And one
more, whose opinion counts when we want to know if the work is good? (people
who are educated in the arts or the public who buy it?)
Marilynn

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Message 6
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:08:01 -0600
Subject: [Baren 24611] Theme for Exchange #21...
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Sign-up for Exchange #21 will begin April 1. It is a themed exchange in
'other' size. So we really do need to decide on the theme and the size for
this exchange. Several good ideas for themes have been suggested in recent
months:

** Theme / suggested by / size
** Haiku / Bette Wapner / shikishiban (about 9" x 8")
** What is your vision of the "Fleeting World" / Dan Dew / ?size?
** The four elements - earth, wind, fire, or water / Connie P. / ?size?

Surimono (literally: printed things) were frequently shikishiban
format. You can find a short essay about surimono here:
http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/japan/gallery/textP.htm A good size for a
haiku exchange might be shikishiban, often used for surimono (which most
often included one or more poems along with the image). Shikishiban is
about 9" high x 8" wide (23cm x 20.5cm). That size is a good one, I think
-- not too big and not too small (and it will fit in our chuban cases!)...

Please let us hear which you prefer (and feel free to suggest some other
theme) -- we still have about two weeks before it's set in stone... I
mean... WOOD!

-- Mike


Mike Lyon
http://mlyon.com

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Message 7
From: GWohlken
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:14:08 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24612] Exchange #21 Theme
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Mike wrote:
> ** Theme / suggested by / size
> ** Haiku / Bette Wapner / shikishiban (about 9" x 8")
> ** What is your vision of the "Fleeting World" / Dan Dew / ?size?
> ** The four elements - earth, wind, fire, or water / Connie P. /
> ?size?

Haiku as a theme interests me, Mike, and the size you mention sounds
good -- Shikishiban.

Would it have to be Moku Hanga style?

~Gayle

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Message 8
From: Mike Lyon
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:20:36 -0600
Subject: [Baren 24613] Re: Exchange #21 Theme
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Gayle wrote:
>Would it have to be Moku Hanga style?

I think that ANY woodblock technique would be appropriate, not just moku-hanga.

-- Mike

Mike Lyon
http://mlyon.com

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Message 9
From: James G Mundie
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:19:47 -0500
Subject: [Baren 24614] Sir Lionel Arthur Lindsay
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Note: See Archive Digest #2589, (Message #7) for this message

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Message 10
From: Jsf73 # aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:23:08 EST
Subject: [Baren 24615] Re: Theme for Exchange #21...
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Well I will add my vote for the haiku theme in the shikishiban format (about
9" x 8")

I had mentioned to Bette I had been wanting to do some works incorporating
haiku before so this would be a great theme for me... so long as I can borrow a
haiku to use in the work.

p.s. Julio, please get the shunga exchange up asap.... I cannot wait to see
them all.... of course if John had hand delivered mine I might have them by
now..... what's up JC dont you like me or something? I would have paid you to UPS
overnight them...lol.

John Furr

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Message 11
From: Darrell Madis
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 08:25:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24616] Re: Exchange #21 Theme
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How about The Nude for the theme of #21?

Darrell

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Message 12
From: Jsf73 # aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:27:01 EST
Subject: [Baren 24617] Re: Exchange #21 Theme
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Darrel wrote:

> How about The Nude for the theme of #21?

Hey I am okay with this idea too.... ;-)

John F

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Message 13
From: Julie Sparks
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 08:54:32 -0800
Subject: [Baren 24618] Re: Theme for Exchange #21...
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** Theme / suggested by / size
** Haiku / Bette Wapner / shikishiban (about 9" x 8")
** What is your vision of the "Fleeting World" / Dan Dew / ?size?
** The four elements - earth, wind, fire, or water / Connie P. / ?size?
** The Nude / Darrell Madis / ?size?

Alright, I'll throw in my vote. I'd personally prefer either the four
elements or the haiku theme. The Nude would be perfect for my
figure-drawing husband, except that he is not a printmaker. I have to
wonder, though, having not taken part in the Shunga exchange, would a
Nude theme overlap with that one much?

I'm continuing to work on ghost printing with linocuts and oily ink.
This week is my first experiment with colors, but since at least one
impression of the final product is going to be a wedding gift this
Saturday, I am doing two editions, one in blues and browns, and one
using only black ink, which I have used previously to good effect.

My museum studies class took a field trip up to the Gilkey Center at the
Portland Art Museum yesterday. I've been to visit there several times
with another class, but this was the first time we ever got to see the
inside of the vault! :) There is a good print show going on at PAM right
now, called Sacred and Secular. Since the museum was actually closed, we
only had about 15 minutes to look at it, but they have quite a few Durer
woodcuts and engravings, a bunch of etchings by Rembrandt, a page from
the Nuremburg Chronicle, and prints by the Little Masters, Hendrik
Goltzius, Jacques Callot, and others. I can't wait to get back up there
and spend more time looking. :) If you're in the vicinity, check it out!

--
Julie C. Sparks
Mark O. Hatfield Library
Willamette University
Salem, Oregon

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Message 14
From: JEANNE CHASE
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:11:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 24619] Re: Exchange #21 Theme
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I am all for a Haiku exchange!!!!

Jeanne N.

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Message 15
From: Julio.Rodriguez # walgreens.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:16:41 -0600
Subject: [Baren 24620] Re: Theme for Exchange #21...
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Haiku is not a print theme but more of a poetry style...combine it with a
print image (image + text).....Why not use the suggested Four Elements as
a theme and write a Haiku to go with it.....write a poem about the Four
Elements or about one element to illustrate your image....

And if by chance it happens to say something about our 'Fleeting
World".....well then everybody be happy !

thanks....Julio Rodriguez

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Message 16
From: "MPereira"
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:17:24 -0300
Subject: [Baren 24621] Re: Exchange #21 Theme
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Please let this theme "the nude" for when i could participate
- next year - you know that I am in the refrigerator for a whole year.
Thank you
M

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Message 17
From: "Diane Cutter"
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:22:52 -0400
Subject: [Baren 24622] Re: Exchange #21 Theme
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That's good, because I'm just graduating from linocut and monoprints and
really don't understand the fine definitions people are passing around, but
would love to be a participant in the next exchange.

Diane...

www.dianecutter.com
www.artplaces.com/cutter/
www.eeag.org/dcutter/dcutter.html

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Message 18
From: Julio.Rodriguez # walgreens.com
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:56:39 -0600
Subject: [Baren 24623] Re: graduating to moku hanga
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Diane Cutter writes:
"I'm just graduating from linocut and monoprints and really don't
understand the fine definitions people are passing around,"


Hi Diane, I visited your website and saw your fantastic watercolors.

http://www.artplaces.com/cutter/

I think these would translate very nicely to woodblock prints...specially
to the traditional japanese style or moku hanga as we like to call it here
in the forum. Many a japanese print originated as copies of paintings. In
moku hanga the use of transparent colors and soft pastel like images on
fine japanese handmade papers is very much akin to the watercolor style.

Enjoyed your images very much and reading about your art background.....

Julio Rodriguez (wishing I was in Puerto Rico and not in snow covered
Skokie, Illinois)

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