Baren Digest               Wednesday, 2 July 2003       Volume 24 : Number 2286


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From: Dan Dew <ddew0001#tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 20:12:14 -0400
Subject: [Baren 22040] Re: Keeping focus 


Yeah!  A super exchange!
Count me in.


d. dew

From: FurryPressII#aol.com
Reply-To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 20:00:54 -0400 (EDT)
To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp
Subject: [Baren 22039] Re: Keeping focus


I have a question on the mini prints     Because of the size of the prints
(8 sq. " or less) is there a possibility of increasing the number of
participants to include all who sign up or to have a second exchange.
\
I have engraved postage stamps  so under 8 sq. inches  way under 8"      not
much harder to print 30 as 50

john "furrypressii" center





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From: Ray Hudson <rhudson#together.net>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 21:54:50 -0400
Subject: [Baren 22041] early american baren 

Our recent discusions and practice with recovering Barens in Kansas
City, reminded me of a note I took in May in the Northwest when visiting
a friend who collects arts and crafts period work, including woodcuts
by  Waldo and Corwin Chase.  In, I think, Waldo's autobiography he
describes making a baren in the mid 1920s.  Goods arrived from the
orient wrapped in bundles and bales of "Chinese sea-grass matting."  He
whittled a block of wood "into a shape to fit the hand, like a disk."
The drawing shows a somewhat wide disk with a round flat knob rising in
the center from its base.  He then fastened a piece of matting over the
disk after padding it underneath.  He "braided it down securely and
there is the printing baren."  It sounds very crude but the work created
is lovely.
Ray

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From: "marilynn smih" <marilynnsmih#hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 19:24:58 -0700
Subject: [Baren 22042] Re: Baren Digest V23 #2265 

Dear Bea Gold,
I just returned today from the summit and boating down the columbia.  I am 
sad to hear of your loss and wish you well.
Marilynn Smith


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From: "marilynn smih" <marilynnsmih#hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 20:08:06 -0700
Subject: [Baren 22043] Re: Baren Digest V23 #2285 

I made it home!!  Been on the mighty Columbia river navigating a 34' trawler 
to the coast.  I am extra tired after sleeping on a floor mat and than in a 
V-berth, but happily healthy.  What an amazing experience the summit was.  
There are too many to thank so big hugs to everyone who helped me and walked 
me through hanga frustation, gave me rides and just made me laugh.  Mike 
Lyon how special you are, so kind and always smiling with a hearty welcome, 
thank you so much for sharing that big buiding with the gorgeous floors and  
a big  space with all of us.  I have to share a first impression, David 
Bull.  When he walked into the room I was very awe struck.  He walks with a 
special aura, a man with a purpose, a man with a caring heart, a man who 
shares all with everyone who is willing to learn. Thank you for sharing your 
knowledge with such kindness.  The beauty of this wonderful group of wood 
block artists is that they were willing, each and every one to share, 
inspire and just plain care. We slept together, ate together, shared a 
shower for a week and walked away feeling like one big family.   (yes there 
were some in hotels but they missed the 1 am look at julios books and I 
think even more, I loved waking up to this group every morning for a week!) 
Now I can say I am a convert and more hanga prints will be coming!!!  I 
really really learned!!!  Please make the next summit one I can attend, the 
goal is to go to every one!
A word about you oily ones, I love oil too.  But you can not take oil 
pigments on an airplane!  But please keep carving and sharing I love every 
print I have from this group of artists.
Love to all, Marilynn


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From: "MPereira" <mpereira#newsite.com.br>
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 00:07:28 -0300
Subject: [Baren 22044] Re: Exchange #18 (small) SIGN-UP-1" 

Mike, 
I didn't understand quite well
the dimensions of exchange 18 th
Paper dimension is the same as exchange 16th..ok?
25,5 x 19 cm...
But in the exchange 18th there is a limit
for the stamp dimension...OK???
Could you tell again please  
these dimensions in cm????
Thank you
Murilo.
`PS. Congratuloations for the success
of your summit.

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From: "Carole Baker" <caroleb#gustavus.ak.us>
Date: Wed,  2 Jul 2003 12:46:42 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [Baren 22045] Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 


Hi all,

I finally got home Sunday night after a week in Florida after the summit.
Finally my mind at rest to dwell on thoughts of that wonderful week and
feeling such gratitude for all of you that made it possible.  Thank you,
thank you, thank you!

Some thoughts on the water and oil mix of Baren.  I am really only
interested in hanga, and pretty much ignore the oily technical things when
they come up on the forum.  But I love much of the the imagery, cherish the
oil based exchange prints, and enjoy the non-technique discussion from the
oily group on the forum.  So it is good to know that nothing really is going
to change. But when I read the digests last week, I'm remembering (perhaps
wrongly) that  the discussion to keep the emphasis of Baren on moku hanga
came up after someone suggested having an all-oil gathering.   I hope that
Baren would not discourage such a gathering as the summit for those members
of Baren just interested in oil based printing (assuming some oil loving
persons would want to take on the task of organizing it) and that Baren
might even facilitate it to some extent  on the site (sign up, info area).

One more thing:
  Dave sent these links to the forum a few months ago about his friend Mr
Hishiki who started making prints at the age of 60 and is now 73. I was
talking to someone at the summit about them and said i'd saved the links and
would send them.  But now I can't remember who it was I was suppose to send
them too(maybe cause I'm 60 going on 73) , so here they are again for
everyone and well worth another look:  The text isn't readable.


> Some prints he made for entering in group exhibitions:
> http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/hishiki-k/koubo/
>
> Calendar:
> http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/hishiki-k/cal10/


Carole Baker
Gustavus, Alaska



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From: "marilynn smih" <marilynnsmih#hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 21:15:18 -0700
Subject: [Baren 22046] Re: Baren Digest V23 #2274 

I will send my little flower for a summit exchange, but it is for the 
playing card exchange.  I could reprint it in another color on different 
paper to make it unique for those who will already have one.
Marilynn



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From: "kate courchaine" <katecourchaine#hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 05:28:34 +0000
Subject: [Baren 22047] Re: Baren Digest V23 #2285 

Well stated Eli!  I too am primarily a oil printer, and greatly enjoy and 
learn from discussions including oil printing as well as hanga.  I think 
Baren is a wonderful forum and greatly appreciate everyone's participation.  
Wish I could have made it to the summit, it sounded great.
best wishes, Kate


>From: eli griggs <eli_griggs#yahoo.com>
>Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:02:58 -0700 (PDT)
>Subject: [Baren 22028] Re: Keeping focus
>
>Hi there:
>
>It seems to me that, as a community of woodcut
>printmakers, Baren needs to take stock of it's
>membership's needs and elevate non-Moku-Hanga
>printmaking to a position equal to that of traditional
>Japanese printing, within our Forum.
>
>Non-Hanga printmakers take part in discussions and
>exchanges and contribute greatly to the vitality and
>general health of this community.  I dare say we are
>the larger portion of the membership and will continue
>to be so.
>
>That is not to say that, as a 'oily person' I feel
>that the lessons of Hanga are lost on me, quite the
>contrary!  When I began looking for information of
>woodcut printing, it was David Bull's Baren that
>showed me the way.  I read and reread the encyclopedia
>and began to grow as a printmaker and as an artist.
>Guided by the discussions online and the welcoming
>attitude of the membership, I begin to take part in
>the exchanges and dialog.
>
>Today I use both Hanga and 'Western' tools, materials
>and methods in my printmaking and fully anticipate the
>day when I post a set of Moku-Hanga prints to some
>future exchange.
>
>However, aspiring to learn traditional Hanga, does not
>mean that I want to leave behind the methods I use
>now.
>
>I like the way that I make prints, and do not think of
>Hanga as some sort of end-all, be-all of woodcut
>printmaking...a sort of graphic artist Nirvana.
>
>Hanga is a woodcut technique, one among many, and
>David Bull's Baren has been given over to a diverse
>community of artist/printmakers, using many different
>methods... and it has flourished!
>
>It is time to expand the encyclopedia, OUR
>encyclopedia to include substantial datum about
>non-Hanga methods, so that our membership can continue
>evolving as printmakers, from lurkers to novice to
>Master Printmakers.
>
>The Baren Atelier can and should give more than lip
>service to the methods studied and used by so many of
>it's members and would be doing a great disservice to
>all if it were to leave non-Hanga printmakers to
>languish or lose interest or leave, all because
>influential members fear diluting the focus on
>Moku-Hanga.
>
>Best Regards,
>Eli



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From: John and Michelle Morrell <jmmorrell#gci.net>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 23:54:36 -0800
Subject: [Baren 22048] 8 square inches or 50 square cm - Exchange #18 

I've been looking unsuccessfully for ready made blocks in that size, and
they don't seem to exist.  Is it okay to vignette a larger block down to the
surface dimensions (perimeter of image) or can we go smaller to a ready-made
2 x 3?  Cutting blocks is another one of those things I just don't do well.

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Michelle Morrell
jmmorrell#gci.net
MichelleMorrell.com
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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon#mlyon.com>
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 06:57:28 -0500
Subject: [Baren 22049] Re: Exchange #18 (small) SIGN-UP 

Complete description of #18 is on-line in the sign-up page at 
http://barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_sign-up.html and also in the 
exchange information page at 
http://barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_18/exchange_18.html

- -- Mike

At 12:07 AM 7/2/2003 -0300, you wrote:

>Mike,
>I didn't understand quite well the dimensions of exchange 18 the Paper 
>dimension is the same as exchange 16th..ok? 25,5 x 19 cm... But in the 
>exchange 18th there is a limit for the stamp dimension...OK???
>Could you tell again please  these dimensions in cm????
>Thank you
>Murilo.



Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com  

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From: FurryPressII#aol.com
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 08:30:20 EDT
Subject: [Baren 22050] Re: Exchange #18 (small) SIGN-UP 



I signed up but so far my name has not shown up    I guess I will have to 
wait for the up date.

Mike I do not intend to cash the refund check     so you can make it a 
donation to baren if you wish.

John ":furrypress" Center


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