Baren Digest               Wednesday, 2 July 2003       Volume 24 : Number 2285


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From: G Wohlken <blueman#pantek.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 10:27:33 -0400
Subject: [Baren 22026] post card calendars 

Julio, I'm in the process (on the back porch; what a nice studio it 
makes)  of printing my 4 x 6 calendar image.  How many are we making of 
these?  I went to the web page about it and it says minimum 35.  Where 
did I get the idea we were to send 45?

Gayle/Ohio    



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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon#mlyon.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 10:23:21 -0500
Subject: [Baren 22027] #18 SIGN-UP ALREADY UNDERWAY
Jack Reisland, Julio Rodriguez, Gilda Zimmerling, and Sharen Linder have 
successfully (as I write) signed up for Exchange #18 and so can you!  This 
will be a "small print" exchange.  Chuban paper size and an eight square 
inch or fifty square centimeter image size of any proportions which will 
fit the paper.  Sign up at: 
http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_sign-up.html

I hope you will take advantage of the small image size to produce your most 
fabulous de-luxe and fantastic print ever !!!
    * MEDIUM: woodblock print (hand rubbed or pulled on a press, B&W or 
colour, any pigments, any paper)
    * THEME: open
    * PAPER: chu-ban about 10 x 7 1/2 inches (25.4 x 19 cm). Note: in 
previous exchanges the coordinators have had many problems with prints that 
don't fit the cases, so this time we must emphasize - prints that do not 
meet the published specification will be rejected from the exchange and 
returned to the maker. No exceptions.
    * IMAGE SIZE: 8 square inches (50 square cm) in any proportion which 
will fit the paper (+/- 5%).   For example:  8" x 1", 6" x 1 1/3", 4" x 2", 
2.8" x 2.8", etc -- OR -- 20 x 2.5 cm, 17 x 3 cm, 7.2 x 7.2 cm, etc.  Could 
be a circle 3.2" or 8 cm in diameter, etc. etc. etc.
    * PAPER TYPE: no restriction
    * REGISTRATION PERIOD: One month starting July 1, 2003 (or until 30 
participants are enrolled)
    * WORK PERIOD: Three months starting August 1
    * DEADLINE FOR FINISHED PRINTS: November 1st, 2003
Room for 30 printers plus the first three or four on the waiting list have 
a good shot at getting in...  SO GOOD LUCK -- THIS ONE SHOULD BE FUN, FUN, 
FUN !!!

- -- Mike


Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com  



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From: eli griggs <eli_griggs#yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:02:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baren 22028] Re: Keeping focus 

Hi there:

It seems to me that, as a community of woodcut
printmakers, Baren needs to take stock of it's
membership's needs and elevate non-Moku-Hanga
printmaking to a position equal to that of traditional
Japanese printing, within our Forum.  

Non-Hanga printmakers take part in discussions and
exchanges and contribute greatly to the vitality and
general health of this community.  I dare say we are
the larger portion of the membership and will continue
to be so.

That is not to say that, as a 'oily person' I feel
that the lessons of Hanga are lost on me, quite the
contrary!  When I began looking for information of
woodcut printing, it was David Bull's Baren that
showed me the way.  I read and reread the encyclopedia
and began to grow as a printmaker and as an artist.
Guided by the discussions online and the welcoming
attitude of the membership, I begin to take part in
the exchanges and dialog.

Today I use both Hanga and 'Western' tools, materials
and methods in my printmaking and fully anticipate the
day when I post a set of Moku-Hanga prints to some
future exchange.

However, aspiring to learn traditional Hanga, does not
mean that I want to leave behind the methods I use
now.

I like the way that I make prints, and do not think of
Hanga as some sort of end-all, be-all of woodcut
printmaking...a sort of graphic artist Nirvana. 

Hanga is a woodcut technique, one among many, and
David Bull's Baren has been given over to a diverse
community of artist/printmakers, using many different
methods... and it has flourished!

It is time to expand the encyclopedia, OUR
encyclopedia to include substantial datum about
non-Hanga methods, so that our membership can continue
evolving as printmakers, from lurkers to novice to
Master Printmakers.

The Baren Atelier can and should give more than lip
service to the methods studied and used by so many of
it's members and would be doing a great disservice to
all if it were to leave non-Hanga printmakers to
languish or lose interest or leave, all because
influential members fear diluting the focus on
Moku-Hanga.

Best Regards,
Eli







- --- Ramsey Household <cjramsey#mind.net> wrote:
> I just did a google search.  I didn't find any other
> forums for block
> printing.  Please give just one.  I have always
> liked the fact that this was
> an inclusive forum where all woodblock printing
> could be discussed, not just
> Moku-Hanga.  I think that is its strength.  There is
> room for all of us,
> traditional or not.
> 
> Carolyn Ramsey
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Liz Horton" <liz.horton#att.net>
> To: <baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp>
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 6:04 PM
> Subject: [Baren 21977] Re: Keeping focus
> 
> 
> > Mike--What are some of the best discussion groups
> (a la BarenForum) for
> oily
> > work?
> >
> > Liz Horton
> > liz.horton#att.net
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > ..  There are many,
> > MANY sources (and forums) for oily work, but
> BarenForum seems unique in
> its
> > mission to promote traditional Japanese woodblock
> printmaking
> > technique.  While still allowing oily block
> discussion, let's continue to
> > emphasize our original mission:  Moku-Hanga!
> >
> > -- Mike
> >
> >
> > Mike Lyon
> > mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com
> > http://www.mlyon.com
> >
> >

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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 12:43:40 -0500
Subject: [Baren 22029] Re: post card calendars,  Baren $$$, Baren's future projects 


Hi Gayle, the website needs a little updating, so sorry...you are right is 
45 prints for the postcard calendar, 40 for all other calendar formats. 

I guess this is as good a time as any to post my monthly calendar 
update....

Two and a half months left till the calendar prints are due. 

It was nice to talk to many of you in KC about your calendar prints and I 
even saw a few members actually working on their blocks/design while at 
the Summit.

Barbara and I are working/designing the desktop holder that will house the 
postcard prints.  Printing of the month/pages will be done later this 
month and collating and assembly will take place as prints roll in. 

One topic of discussion at KC (Barbara gave a financial report to those at 
the Summit) was achieving nonprofit status for our group. Another subject 
discussed was the success of the barenmall in raising funds to cover our 
operating costs. Money from calendar sales will also be used for this and 
other opportunities...

Awards given by Baren to promising printmakers do not come from the 
general mall funds...but rather the awards/money comes from special 
donations by members thru the website's award page 
(http://www.barenforum.org/awards/) . So far three such awards have been 
given out. 

Thanks to the generosity and hospitality of our gracious host the KC 
Summit was pretty much "free" to members and "Baren" as a group. Future 
summits may require renting printmaking facilities that would facilitate 
the use of presses and other traditional/western printmaking equipment. 
Also the opportunity to bring in paid speakers and/or printers to 
demo/teach both oil and hanga techniques at a future summit was discussed. 
Obviously we must have the funds available to cover such 
expenses/opportunities. I am hoping that in addition to the Barenmall, the 
Calendar project will be a good vehicle for achieving those goals and that 
it hopefully becomes a yearly fund-raiser....

I like to share with you all a famous quote that has often graced our 
website:

"We must, indeed, all hang together, 
or most assuredly we shall all hang separately" 
- -Printmaker Benjamin Franklin



thanks.......Julio Rodriguez (Skokie, Illinois)

 


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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 14:15:29 -0500
Subject: [Baren 22030] Re: Keeping focus 

In my opinion the exchanges and the online discussion is a good mix of 
both worlds...oily and water. 

If the encyclopedia and website have taken a turn toward hanga is only 
because of the members own contributions (or rather lack of !). Most of 
what's there now was contributed by David Bull during our first three 
years and it is obviously (at least the printing techniques info) 
channeled toward hanga. We can all benefit from the sections on tools, 
carving and sharpening.

But the encyclopedia is (and always has been ) open to all kind of 
woodblock printmaking input. Is just that nobody has been contributing 
once Dave stopped. Same thing with the Baren-Suji newsletter, appeals for 
general articles and contributions to the forum list usually  fall on deaf 
ears. 

I have looked real hard on all our webpages and nowhere does Baren 
promotes itself as a hanga website..it never has....quite the 
contrary...in every opportunity the words "woodblock printmaking"  are 
emphasized: 




The motivation in starting this list was to provide a forum for 
dissemination of information about woodblock printmaking. There were a 
number of places on the Web where printmaking in general was discussed, 
but one always had to wade through a lot of extraeneous information before 
finding anything relevant to this topic. The only way that the [Baren] 
convention can be a useful resource to woodblock printmakers is if the 
discussions focus on woodblock printmaking. Please try and keep this in mind. Of course, if 
a particular thread becomes interesting and leads a bit 'off-topic' then 
we should follow it, but when starting a thread, please try and stick to 
our theme.  
Here are the currently available discussion areas: 


The [Baren] Forum for Woodblock Printmaking 
Anything and everything about: 
the process of making woodblock prints - carving, printing, tools, 
suitable papers, etc. etc.  
matters of general interest to woodblock printmakers - your current 
printmaking projects, new web sites, general discussion ...  


Here is a couple of links of interest for those interested in contributing 
any type of articles:

http://www.barenforum.org/information.html#Topics
http://www.barenforum.org/encyclopedia/how_to_contribute.html

Looking forward to reading some new entries real soon....

thanks....Julio Rodriguez (Skokie, Illinois)



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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 14:21:09 -0500
Subject: [Baren 22031] Re: Keeping focus..

Sorry, forgot this key quote from the encyclopedia how-to, I think it 
covers all I want to say:

Thank you for your interest in writing a contribution for the Encyclopedia. 
It is the ultimate aim of the editors to produce a reference work that 
will be of use to all woodblock printmakers - no matter what their 
particular field of interest. To that end, it is necessary that we receive 
contributions of material from a wide variety of different sources - from 
printmakers working in any tradition, and at any level of achievement. 
The Encyclopedia can never become too 'full', as there are always other 
viewpoints on even the most common and basic aspects of woodblock 
printmaking. We are thus soliciting contributions on every topic listed in the outline, whether or not other entries have been 
received. (And the outline itself is not necessarily complete; if your 
prospective contribution doesn't 'fit', we'll be quite happy to expand the 
outline to suit.)
Of course, we would be most happy if you have something to offer on one of 
those topics for which nothing has yet been contributed!

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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon#mlyon.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 16:30:46 -0500
Subject: [Baren 22032] Exchange #18 (small) SIGN-UP 

Just warning you know that during the first six hours since #18 (the small 
exchange) opened, twenty have signed up.  Space is going fast, so if you 
want in on this one (tiny little image area of 8 square inches or 50 square 
centimeters) you better hurry up -- only 10 slots left before the exchange 
is full...  http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_sign-up.html

- -- Mike


Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com  


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From: Jsf73#aol.com
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 17:41:47 EDT
Subject: [Baren 22033] Re: Exchange #18 (small) SIGN-UP 



Mike I would like to sign up for exchange #18 but as you know I got roped 
into participating in exchange 17 at the summit.... not that I mind Jeanne!

You said participants of 17 had to wait 1 week to sign up......so hope it 
doesnt fill up before the 7th? 

John Furr 


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From: Aqua4tis#aol.com
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 17:56:23 EDT
Subject: [Baren 22034] Re: Exchange #18 (small) SIGN-UP 



im somewhat math challenged     what would the dimensions be for 8 square 
inches?


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From: Jsf73#aol.com
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 18:00:33 EDT
Subject: [Baren 22035] Re: Exchange #18 (small) SIGN-UP 



2x4
1x8
3.5x2.28
3x2.66
1.5x5.33

you get the idea?


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From: Frank Trueba <ftrueba#cats.ucsc.edu>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 15:13:19 -0700
Subject: [Baren 22036] Re: Exchange #18 (small) SIGN-UP 

Hi,

Any number of possibilities:

in inches: 1 x 8, 2 x 4, 2.5 x 3.2, 2.8 x 2.85, etc.

frank



At 05:56 PM 7/1/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>im somewhat math challenged     what would the dimensions be for 8 square 
>inches?


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From: Aqua4tis#aol.com
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:38:42 EDT
Subject: [Baren 22037] Re: Exchange #18 (small) SIGN-UP 


yes  thank you


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From: Aqua4tis#aol.com
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:42:10 EDT
Subject: [Baren 22038] Re: Exchange #18 (small) SIGN-UP 


thanks everyone for answering my question about dimension


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From: FurryPressII#aol.com
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:00:54 EDT
Subject: [Baren 22039] Re: Keeping focus 



I have a question on the mini prints     Because of the size of the prints (8 
sq. " or less) is there a possibility of increasing the number of 
participants to include all who sign up or to have a second exchange.     

I have engraved postage stamps  so under 8 sq. inches  way under 8"      not 
much harder to print 30 as 50

john "furrypressii" center



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