Baren Digest               Tuesday, 25 March 2003       Volume 22 : Number 2170


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From: ArtfulCarol#aol.com
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:29:04 EST
Subject: [Baren 21103] Oops! 

Dear Bareners,

My responses should have been posted privately and off line.
I am sorry I broke the necessary Baren rules.

Carol Lyons

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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon#mlyon.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:34:10 -0600
Subject: [Baren 21104] Re: The theme, 3 suggestions 

Quoting Minna Sora <indian.girl#luukku.com>:


> What about basic elements, water, air, fire and earth?

...

> And, pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase, war-peace theme would be strictly forbidden!


Thanks for the nominations, Minna...  One note: no theme suggestion (or theme) 
should be "forbidden"...      We are not ostriches   :-)

Mike (passing through Gillette, WY)

- -- 

Mike Lyon
http://www.mlyon.com


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From: Daniel Dew <ddew#tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:39:23 -0500
Subject: [Baren 21105] My Visit To Chicago 

What a blast!
I finally got to meet live Baren people (well, some of them were sorta live,
but that's another story).
Julio looked exactly as I imagined him, Sharon not a bit like I imagined and
John, well, John looks like his 2003 "Old Goat" card.
We had lots of fun visiting, looking at each others prints and the folio for
#15.
It was a hoot!
I highly recommend, if you are out of town, looking up any Baren folks in
the area for a visit.
My time was well spent.
Oh well, I sent pictures to Julio, let's see how long it takes for him to
post them in the Events section!

Daniel L. Dew
Suncoast Equipment Funding Corporation
http://www.suncoastleasing.com
http://www.dandew.com
ddew#tampabay.rr.com



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From: "marilynn smih" <marilynnsmih#hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:06:02 -0800
Subject: [Baren 21106] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2169 

I doubt I will do #17 because of all the other things I am doing, so I have 
been hesitant to make a suggestion.  But as I read all these comments about 
greif and pain in the world and politics I wonder where is the love?  where 
is the hope?  Have we lost sight of caring and giving and helping?  Why not 
a positive theme in a world that has so much negative?  What about themes 
like hope, love, giving or helping. Our firemans benefit prints were and are 
a strong reflection of an historic event, a positive reflection.
I greive more for the loss of some of the wonder and beauty of the world 
than for all this war stuff.  We are slowly destroying our enviroment.  
Perhaps we should focus on showing something we want to keep in our world, 
something we are loosing rather than suffering of the human kind.
A trip to go snorkeling to view the wonders of the sea will make one want to 
keep the world special.  to keep the turtle, the whale, the wild undergrowth 
of land and sea.
Now that leads me to a thought, how about the wonders of the sea or 
endangered species for a theme?
Marilynn smith, still smiling while watching this war unfold


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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:40:51 -0600
Subject: [Baren 21107] Re: My Visit To Chicago 

Dan writes: "Oh well, I sent pictures to Julio, let's see how long it 
takes for him to
post them in the Events section!"

Hi Dan, the Baren get-together last Thursday was special, so good to meet 
you in person. We met, we ate, we talked prints, we gossiped and then I 
nearly put Dan and the others to sleep when I started talking about 
calendars !! . Somehow, don't know what happened, all the photos you sent 
with MY picture on them got deleted by my spam email filter...just as well 
as I been doing a good job of keeping my mug off the Baren website for a 
while now ! {;-)

I'll upload the pics of the other bareners & the Graphics folks later 
tonight from home, for everyone to enjoy, ha, ha, ha!

Julio




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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:10:48 -0600
Subject: [Baren 21108] Re: "About the Four Horsemen of Apocalypse" 


Dimitris wrote: "About the Four Horsemen of Apocalypse...."

What a great print that is !!!! Durer's "The Four Horsemen of
Apocalypse". I just had a close real encounter of the personal
kind with this print.

Have you ever closed your eyes and watched the whole history of
printmaking flash before your eyes ?

I had such an experience last week....but my eyes were not
closed, but rather wide open. I got invited to go down to the
Chicago Arts Institute Prints-Room for a private
lecture-walkthru. A friend's printmaking teacher is an AIC
graduate and took the class down for a private "show", I tagged
along...and what a show it was !

Imagine entering a room an having out on display for you thirty
or so prints....works by Durer(5), Kollwitz, Masereel,
Eichenberg, Baskin, Munch, Gaugin, Lichtenstein,
Frankenthaler...etc.... the real McCoys !!! No glass, no
frames...just the prints.....now imagine having your nose inches
away !  Careful....don't let that drooling touch the prints ! 
What a treat !!!!

The five Durer prints, Munch's Kiss, Eichenber's print of a
military escort and Kollwitz woodcut print of a funeral were
magnificent. Perhaps is the naure of out times, but could not
help but notice that many of the prints on display for us spoke
of man's enduring grief and suffering.

The small group of about eight of us were only allowed about an
hour and a half with these treasures but what an hour and a half 
it was !  Just so you don't think I am turning a new leaf
here....aftewards, we did sneak down to the main Oriental room to
see an exhibit of 30+  Hiroshige's prints (moku hanga) from the
Clarence Buckingham collection.

thanks....Julio Rodriguez

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From: Barbara Mason <barbaramason45#yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:58:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 21109] Art Institute of Chicago 


Julio,

I envy you your tour of the prints and drawings room. In 1991,
the year before the Gilkey Center opened I had the same pleasure
of a private tour while my husband enjoyed the waterfront jazz.
They were so kind and gave me all their rules, some of which we
used here in Portland for our own center. Marc Pascal was
especially kind to show me around....I had toured the museum
itself the day before but missed the American Contemporary art as
I got so caught up in the woodblock prints. This was long before
baren, so maybe I have always been a closet woodblock lover. Marc
thought this was time well spent.

There is just nothing like seeing the real thing, is there? I was
particularly interested in Huntervasser, an Austrian artist in
the mid 80-s and found out our museum here had some of his
prints. I wrangled an invite to go in and see them, white gloves
on in a tiny little closet of a room.....and that was what got me
involved with our own center, wanting the whole world to be able
to see this incredible work that is so seldom on display.

If any of you live close to either of these cities, Chicago or
Portland, you can make an appointment to see work of your
favorite artists. It is worth all the effort, believe me!

Best to all,

Barbara





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From: "Robert Canaga Gallery" <rcg#robertcanagagallery.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:07:59 -0800
Subject: [Baren 21110] New barren 

Oh MY!
They say you need the right tool for the job. Well, I have found
the right tool! I just received my ball bearing barren from
Takuji san and my wife has had to come up to the studio and pry
it from my hand so I could make dinner:) It is SO well made! I
printed one set of blocks on dry kitikata and got pure, flat
color with no variation! I love it! $11150 well spent.
Yours
Robert

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From: Dan Dew <ddew0001#tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:40:28 -0500
Subject: [Baren 21111] #17 Ideas 

How about:
- -figures
- -family
- -friends
- -landscapes
- -buildings
- -oily only
- - my favorite consumer product
- - drugs
- - country music (dogs, divorce, drinking, etc...)

let's have fun and a smiley theme this time, huh?


d. dew


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From: Dan Dew <ddew0001#tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 18:20:50 -0500
Subject: [Baren 21112] Re: My Visit To Chicago 
Don't worry Julio, I sent a copy of your pic to Dave Bull.


d. dew

From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Reply-To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:40:51 -0600
To: baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp
Subject: [Baren 21107] Re: My Visit To Chicago



Dan writes: "Oh well, I sent pictures to Julio, let's see how long it takes
for him to
post them in the Events section!"

Hi Dan, the Baren get-together last Thursday was special, so good to meet
you in person. We met, we ate, we talked prints, we gossiped and then I
nearly put Dan and the others to sleep when I started talking about
calendars !! . Somehow, don't know what happened, all the photos you sent
with MY picture on them got deleted by my spam email filter...just as well
as I been doing a good job of keeping my mug off the Baren website for a
while now ! {;-) 

I'll upload the pics of the other bareners & the Graphics folks later
tonight from home, for everyone to enjoy, ha, ha, ha!

Julio 





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From: Sharri LaPierre <Barebonesart#attbi.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:55:39 -0800
Subject: [Baren 21113] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2169 

Well, I guess I'm a simpleton.  No where in the suggestion for the 
theme of war and peace did I hear even a hint that this would mean a 
political poster contest.  I don't think any of us wants to do that 
kind of "soviet" style art for the masses.  It would seem to me that 
with a theme as broad based as" war and peace" just about any image 
would be relevant.  Some might choose to do the horrors of war "ala 
Goya", others might choose do to a peaceful meadow landscape - perhaps 
what a perfect and peaceful world might look to them.  I see plenty of 
latitude in the theme "war and peace", which may be a political 
expression to some, and not to others.  At any rate, there is no need 
to get ones feathers fluffed.

Stubbornly voting for War and Peace,
Sharri
:-)


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From: Myron Turner <mturner#Ms.UManitoba.CA>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 21:45:46 -0600
Subject: [Baren 21114] Paper sizes 

This is really, I guess, directed at Mike Taylor, but I'm
sure others of you have the answer.
I discovered several different Japanese papers in my studio, all within
the same size range: 21 x 17 inches. I obviously got them
many years ago, but under what circumstances I can't remember. (Nothing
crooked!-- I just don't remember the how or why.
Some time back Mike sent us a list of Japanese paper sizes, which I've
kept, but I can't find anything that approximates this size.
Is there a name for this paper size, and does it have a particular
purpose?
There's enough paper there for an interesting project--the size looks
like a form waiting for content.&nbsp; Knowing something about the paper
might help push things along.
Thanks, 
Myron

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From: Barbara Mason <barbaramason45#yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 21:16:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 21115] Re: Paper sizes 

Myron,

Usually one would tear the paper in half and then in half again,
giving 2 pieces 11x17, or 4 pieces 11x8.5. The Japanese also have
the long size, so any way you tear it I think you can use it all
very well. How nice to find paper you did not know you had.
Almost like finding money! Best to all, Barbara

I discovered several different Japanese papers in my studio, all
within the same size range:  21 x 17 inches. Thanks,

Myron 


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From: juan <viscult#prodigy.net.mx>
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:22:46 -0600
Subject: [Baren 21116] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2169 

DEAR CAROL:

Legal status does not determine ideologies.This is an international forum. 
Please let's keep our head cool.

Friendly,



>From: ArtfulCarol#aol.com
>Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 12:02:49 EST
>Subject: [Baren 21090] Re: Baren Digest V22 #2168
>

>Juan Guererro,
>I do hope the Chicanos and Mexicans,  print artists  who are in your  group
>are LEGAL  immigrants.  Otherwise, they are against the US law  and
>criminals.
>Carol Lyons




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From: Wanda <robertson#canby.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:16:06 -0800
Subject: [Baren 21117] Re: New barren 

on 3/24/03 2:07 PM, Robert Canaga Gallery at rcg#robertcanagagallery.com
wrote:
<snip>

> I printed one set of blocks on dry kitikata and got pure, flat color with no
> variation!
> I love it!
> $11150 well spent.
>

Tell me, is that the correct amount? $11,150.00?  Gosh, I would have to
choose between a new used car or a baren :-)

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From: "Robert Canaga Gallery" <rcg#robertcanagagallery.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:39:12 -0800
Subject: [Baren 21118] Re: New barren 

Hey, I can't help it if I have sticky fingers from aall this printing:)
$150.00 is closer! plus shipping ($3.65)
RC

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From: Myron Turner <mturner#Ms.UManitoba.CA>
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 05:14:16 -0600
Subject: [Baren 21119] Re: Paper sizes 

On Mike's list that's:   Ogata-chuban = 11.5 x 8.5

Is there any special purpsoe for this size (or for the 11 x 17)?

Thanks,

Myron

At 11:16 PM 24/03/2003, you wrote:


>Myron,
>
>Usually one would tear the paper in half and then in half again, giving 2 
>pieces 11x17, or 4 pieces 11x8.5. The Japanese also have the long size, so 
>any way you tear it I think you can use it all very well. How nice to find 
>paper you did not know you had. Almost like finding money!
>
>Best to all,
>
>Barbara



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