Baren Digest            Wednesday, 11 December 2002    Volume 21 : Number 2056


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From: LEAFRUTH#aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:48:19 EST
Subject: [Baren 20066] Re: Baren Digest V21 #2054 

I loved the horses I recieved from Gayle and John.  I was expecting sheep.  
Mine will be out any day now......Ruth

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From: FurryPressII#aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:34:03 EST
Subject: [Baren 20067] heard of "old goats" 

old goats are in the mail or is it male old goat

john center

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From: Aqua4tis#aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:09:12 EST
Subject: [Baren 20068] Re: heard of "old goats" 


john
    i cant wait!!!!
georga


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From: Vishnovus#aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:18:37 EST
Subject: [Baren 20069] double listing on sheep/goat sign up 

I just recieved 2 wonderful prints from Myron....Had me wondering why Im so 
special to get 2!!!
Then I looked at the sign up sheet and Im listed on there twice. go figure.
Myron, Ill return one of the prints to you...or would you like me to send you 
two of mine?

To all sending prints....beware! Im on there twice!!!
Best,
Ld Lawrence
Sequim, WA 

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From: "Lee and Barbara Mason" <lbmason71#attbi.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:42:15 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20070] two goats or sheep 

Myron,
I also received two of your wonderful  prints, but I do not seem to be there
twice..so I am unsure why...shall I send it back to you????
Barbara Mason


> I just recieved 2 wonderful prints from Myron....Had me wondering why Im

so

> special to get 2!!!
> Then I looked at the sign up sheet and Im listed on there twice. go

figure.

> Myron, Ill return one of the prints to you...or would you like me to send

you

> two of mine?
>
> To all sending prints....beware! Im on there twice!!!
> Best,
> Ld Lawrence
> Sequim, WA




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From: Dan Dew <ddew0001#tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:03:36 -0500
Subject: [Baren 20071] Clean Up Question 

Help, anyone who uses Graphic Chemical water based black ink:  what do you
use to clean up?
Water and soap are useless.  :-(
Sorry Dean, but I am frustrated to no end !

d. dew


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From: Myron Turner <mturner#Ms.UManitoba.CA>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:20:10 -0600
Subject: [Baren 20072] Re: double listing on sheep/goat sign up 

Dear Ld,

Please don't worry about the duplication:  give the second print to someone 
whom you think might like to have it.   And one of your own for me will be 
just great.

Best,

Myron

At 08:18 PM 10/12/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>I just recieved 2 wonderful prints from Myron....Had me wondering why Im so
>special to get 2!!!
>Then I looked at the sign up sheet and Im listed on there twice. go figure.
>Myron, Ill return one of the prints to you...or would you like me to send you
>two of mine?
>
>To all sending prints....beware! Im on there twice!!!
>Best,
>Ld Lawrence
>Sequim, WA



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From: Myron Turner <mturner#Ms.UManitoba.CA>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:28:38 -0600
Subject: [Baren 20073] Re: two goats or sheep 

Somehow you managed to get on my list twice.    It was probably a cut and 
paste error.
So the file produced two labels for you.   There's no need to send it 
back--again, as I said to Ld, give it to someone who might like to have it.

Best,

Myron


At 05:42 PM 10/12/2002 -0800, you wrote:

>Myron,
>I also received two of your wonderful  prints, but I do not seem to be there
>twice..so I am unsure why...shall I send it back to you????
>Barbara Mason
>

> > I just recieved 2 wonderful prints from Myron....Had me wondering why Im

>so

> > special to get 2!!!
> > Then I looked at the sign up sheet and Im listed on there twice. go

>figure.

> > Myron, Ill return one of the prints to you...or would you like me to send

>you

> > two of mine?
> >
> > To all sending prints....beware! Im on there twice!!!
> > Best,
> > Ld Lawrence
> > Sequim, WA



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From: Dan Kitchen <xweave#yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:20:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baren 20074] New to the Baren 

Hello All,
   My name is Dan Kitchen.  I have been lurking the
archive forums for a few weeks, and also explored the
site quite extensively.  I am very excited about
participating.  
   A quick synopis of my relation to woodblock.  I
have been printing for the last few years in a couple
of mediums (relief, intaglio, litho, collagraph), but
always finding myself returning to relief work.  The
relation between the tools and the marks made.  I
recieved my BFA in printmaking in Des Moines, IA, and
am currently working on a MFA in Long Island, NY. 
Recently, I have been trying to develop a studio
practice in my home that involves relief printmaking. 

  I am also fascinated about learning moku hanga and
water based inks, and am trying to slowly pick up
things here and there.  I am hoping of picking up a
workshop in NYC, for instance.
  The other day I was working on a sculpture using MDF
fiber board.  I tried cutting it with my print chisels
and tools and it cut very smoothly and easily.  I am
working on a print matrix using MDF.  My only worry is
perhaps it will be too soft to hold under printing.  I
thought as long as I was introducing myself to the
group I would ask if anyone has tried MDF or other
fiberboards for printing, and if they had worthwhile
results?  
  Excited to be involved.

Dan Kitchen
xweave#yahoo.com


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From: Aqua4tis#aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 01:09:04 EST
Subject: [Baren 20075] Re: New to the Baren 


welcome dan
georga



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From: <Philip238#copper.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:31:28 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20076] Re: New to the Baren 

Hello Dan
I have used Medium Density Fiberboard a lot. I haven't had any problems.
However I am usually an oily person. But MDF seems to hold up quite nicely.
And I use an etching press to print.
Good luck,
Philip
Hammond, OR
USA

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From: Charles Morgan <cmorgan#uvic.ca>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:07:33 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20077] Re: Clean Up Question 

I understand it is an acrylic. If so, try household ammonia. Let me know if 
it works, as I have plans to use if for a ground for etching purposes.

Cheers ....... Charles

At 09:03 PM 12/10/02 -0500, you wrote:

>Help, anyone who uses Graphic Chemical water based black ink:  what do you
>use to clean up?
>Water and soap are useless.  :-(
>Sorry Dean, but I am frustrated to no end !
>
>
>
>d. dew



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From: Charles Morgan <cmorgan#uvic.ca>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:22:39 -0800
Subject: [Baren 20078] Re: New to the Baren 

I do not have tons of experience, BUT I have used MDF and it works just 
fine. It is cheap, and readily available. You can probably even get good 
sized pieces as scrap from cabinet makers, house renovations, or new home 
constructions.

There are several grades of MDF, some of it a lot harder than others. The 
higher grade stuff, though harder to carve, holds a very fine line. The 
great thing about MDF is that there is no grain to worry about. But there 
will often be minute lines on the surface from the manufacturing process. 
Just sand well with a palm sander before you begin to carve. After carving, 
I give the whole thing a coat of sealer ... I have been using one of the 
urethanes.

MDF seems to print well with oil based inks ... clean up with vegetable oil 
and detergent. I have also used Grumbacher water mixable oil colors because 
they clean up with water. I always worry about getting oil into the block, 
so water clean-up is a real plus. I have also covered a block with gum 
arabic, dried it with a hair dryer, then put standard water color directly 
on the block with a brush and dried it ... print on dampened paper, and it 
works just fine, just like doing monoprints.

I have not tried using paste and water based inks, though I cannot think of 
any reason why it would not work as well.

I talked to someone who did a workshop and they carved the blocks as for 
intaglio and then used acrylic paint and a FAST pass through the press with 
dampened paper. I would worry about the acrylic drying on the block.

Let me know how you get on with it.

Cheers ....... Charles

At 09:20 PM 12/10/02 -0800, you wrote:

>   I am
>working on a print matrix using MDF.  My only worry is
>perhaps it will be too soft to hold under printing.  I
>thought as long as I was introducing myself to the
>group I would ask if anyone has tried MDF or other
>fiberboards for printing, and if they had worthwhile
>results?



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