Baren Digest             Thursday, 21 November 2002     Volume 21 : Number 2035


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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon#mlyon.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 06:57:57 -0600
Subject: [Baren 19902] Re: Fw: Dublin Workshop 

 Robert Canaga wrote:

>I thought it would be fun to experience a balmy 4 or 5 days in Ohio in 
>Febrrruary.
>I was worried about taking my tools on the trip. I hate taking anything 
>but carry-on but travel with woodcut tools!???
>Anyone done it?
>Maybe I could ship them??


Dear Robert,

You can NOT take your carving tools into a secure area in an airport (much 
less onto the plane) -- they will be confiscated and NEVER 
returned.  Either put them into checked luggage or ship them 
(insured).  The risk of losing them is about the same either way, I think, 
which is to say very small (even though we've all probably experienced some 
sort of shipping loss).

- -- Mike
Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com
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From: Dan Dew <ddew0001#tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:19:10 -0500
Subject: [Baren 19903] Traveling with tools 

Prior to 9/11, not only did I travel with my tools, I carried them right on
the plane and usually carved during the flight, to the joy of the other
passengers and the flight attendants.
Now though, no way.  I pack them very securely with me underthings in the
rest of my baggage in the belly of the plane, with no problems whatsoever.


d. dew
tampa, fl





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From: G Wohlken <blueman#pantek.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:49:26 -0500
Subject: [Baren 19904] Dublin Workshop 

The Dublin, Ohio workshop would be fun.  I live in Ohio and it seems 
this would be a great opportunity.  I have a conflict with cars and the 
local Chess tournament that takes up almost a month of weekends for the 
driving half of this family--namely husband Jim as my sense of 
direction  is laughable.  Dublin is probably about 150 miles from where 
I live.  Anyway, Robert and Betty, I will see what I can do about trying 
to go to this.  With Kansas City coming up and an event in  mid February 
in New York City, I have to think a lot about how to do it all.  But, it 
sure is tempting to do the Dublin thing.  

Gayle
(Ohio)     



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From: "marilynn smih" <marilynnsmih#hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 09:09:04 -0800
Subject: [Baren 19905] Re: Baren Digest V21 #2034 

I have flown with carving tools and all sorts of art supplies.  But now you 
will have to pack them in a bag and check them.  They will not even allow a 
nail file in a carry on bag.  We were searched on the flight home from Las 
Vegas, after moving the daughter there in October.  It is random by way of 
computer pick.  I did not have art supplies but my husband had all sorts of 
tools he had brought along to help with the move.  He had wrapped them in a 
sleeping bag and clothing and checked them in a suitcase.  They went through 
the search just fine.  But I would not try to carry on carving tools, they 
are sharp and you will be asked to give them away (confiscated) and that 
will cost you plenty in replacement costs.  What is the problem with 
checking bags, I have never lost one.  Why ship by other means? I have 
always put art supplies in a checked bag when we have gone to baja with no 
problems ever.
I have begun mailing out 14a.  I sent out to the overseas people in Japan, 
Brazil and Canada and a few others yesterday, I believe 8 in all.  It 
seeemed easier for me to do this in small batches so they will be going in 
the mail again tomorrow and anything left on Friday.  Minna Sora in Finland 
I have not sent out yours yet.  I was missing one of your prints, but found 
it (oops 2 of yours to one person), they are thin and stick together easily 
so I am waiting until I have double checked each package to be sure I have 
all yours to return to you. It is a lovely print, very interesting and the 
paper is nice, not a problem.  I am being as careful as I can be to double 
and triple check the suites before the packages are sealed.  Hope everyone 
is happy with this great set of work!
Marilynn


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From: "Jeanne N. Chase" <studiojnc#prodigy.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 12:20:40 -0500
Subject: [Baren 19906] All those lovers of good books 

In Sarasota we have a wonderful old used book store. It is very  old,and 
 looks like an overgrown shed, with thousands of used and Rare books. 
The floor has been covered from time to time with metal as it lists to 
the side.
I have recouped many of my books that were lost.

 I recently found a fantastic book; The Dance Of Death, 41 woodcuts by 
Hans Holbein, the Younger. A complete facsimile of the original 1538 
French edition.
What a find.
It was published in 1971.

Lezle
I think you might have a crowd visiting you soon. After our trip to Oz 
next year. Maybe we had better plan a trip to your territory. It sounds 
great and you have done such a marvelous job in renovating your desert 
home. It looks just like an artists place to live and work. Save a space 
for me.

Welcome to the club, Jennifer!  I have been here for four years now and 
I never cease to be amazed at all the talent and educational input this 
group has. And our thanks has to go to David Bull who is the "father" of 
it all!!!!

I am working on a solo show for January, trying to get caught up. It 
will be a Print and Drawing show. Will post it at a later date.

Regards
Jeanne N.




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From: "Tyrus Clutter" <TRClutter#NNU.Edu>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:30:56 -0700
Subject: [Baren 19907] Re: All those lovers of good books 

Jeanne,
  You're so lucky to find that book. I took slides from one to use in my 
classes. We talked about the Danse Macabre in Renaissance Art history this 
semester. Next semester, in my intaglio class, we are going to use that as 
the theme for the final book we create. Each student will do two plates 
for a contemporary Dance of Death. We then bind them up so that everyone 
has a book with everyone else's prints. Time consuming? Heralded by a lot 
of Whines? Yes and yes, but the end product is really great. I think we'll 
be drawing a lot from the skeleton next semester.
TyRuS


>>> studiojnc#prodigy.net 11/20/02 10:20AM >>>

>In Sarasota we have a wonderful old used book store. It is very  old,and  
>looks like an overgrown shed, with thousands of used and Rare books. The 
>floor has been covered from time to time with metal as it lists to the 
>side.
>I have recouped many of my books that were lost.
>
> I recently found a fantastic book; The Dance Of Death, 41 woodcuts by 
>Hans Holbein, the Younger. A complete facsimile of the original 1538 
>French edition.
>What a find.
>It was published in 1971
>
>
>Regards
>Jeanne N.
>

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From: "Jeanne N. Chase" <studiojnc#prodigy.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:06:04 -0500
Subject: [Baren 19908] Re: All those lovers of good books 

TyRuS

Sounds like a great project.
 I love this theme from The Dance of Death and of course you know the
strength of the woodcuts. They are pretty awesome.
I know about whines. When I taught a 3rd year Creative Drawing class at
Ringling School of Art for 18 years I was always challenged to find
interesting themes for their projects. Of course they JUST wanted to draw
what they wanted to draw and when I suggested something unique, whine,
whine.
 But it always amazed me, as you said, the finished product was always a
wonderful surprise for me as well as the students.
 I would really love to see what they come up with.
 I would be really challenged with the project.

Luck

Jeanne N.


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From: JennWint#aol.com
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:57:31 EST
Subject: [Baren 19909] Posting 

Hi everyone,

It's Jenn again.  Thanks for the warm welcome.  I am originally from 
Maryland, went to college in New York, lived in Santa Fe for the last 4 years 
and am currently living in the San Francisco bay area.  Wow, I guess I've 
moved around a lot. . . I am looking to make printmaking my livelihood 
eventually and am wondering about the best route to take with this medium.  
My main plan is to develop a website and sell from there.  Does anyone else 
out there do that?  How does it work for you?  Is is better to get 
representation from a dealer or gallery?  If anyone has suggestions, I'd 
really appreciate it.  

By the way, Lezle, I worked in a gallery in Santa Fe for three years and know 
a lot about the art market there.  You are right.  There is hardly any 
woodblock printmaking at all but that doesn't mean that people aren't 
interested.  Work on paper is sold and the market primarily leans toward the 
abstract expressionistic style (you know Georgia O'Keefe and all).  I don't 
know your style.  There is also a lot of touristy cowboy and indian art of 
animals and kachinas and such.  But, yes, the art market is huge especially 
in the summer when all the tourists come to town.  If you are interested in 
getting into a gallery, get your hands on a "Collector's Guide" (you should 
be able to find these at any gallery).  Inside is a visual advertisement of 
all the galleries in the state and the artists they represent.  You can 
really get a feel of which galleries to approach that way.  Or, just stroll 
Canyon Road (much more enjoyable).  Also, there are many good outdoor markets 
where you can rent booth space and sell that way.  I hope this helps! 
- --Jenn

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From: "John and Michelle Morrell" <jmmorrell#gci.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 23:45:37 -0900
Subject: [Baren 19910] Blue--not 

Charles Morgan quoted the Vancouver Sun quoting the Washington Post:

Many languages have no specific word for the colour blue and
do not distinguish between blue and green. Now, researchers think
they may know why: High levels of ultraviolet B (UVB) exposure
damage the eye in these countries, making many adults unable to
perceive blue.

Years ago I heard the Australian aborigines did not have a word for blue, or
that blue and green was the same word.  I've wondered all the while if they
had a variety of adjectives to describe blues/greens (whatever the word is)
or if they really had several words but they all applied to any variation of
blue or green, or what.  I had thought it was a matter of language rather
than perception, but I remain confused.  Especially since so many northern
Europeans have immigrated to the same areas, but I've not heard anything
about that particular color blindness in the general Australian
population.....

This piece of trivia has been in my mind's limbo file for longer than you
want to know.  Are there Baren Aussies who cannot distinguish between blue/s
and green/s?  Or, do you think it is a conspiracy to make you believe there
is such a thing as blue (but you really know it's all green, always has been
and always will be)?

Michelle Morrell
jmmorrell#gci.net




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From: John and Jan Telfer <jtelfer#iinet.net.au>
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 02 17:16:41 +0800
Subject: [Baren 19911] Re: Travelling with tools 

Bette and Robert,


>I'm planning on taking the workshop in Dublin, Ohio!  I'm in driving
>distance so no worries here about my tools.  I know alot of Bareners have
>loads of experience with traveling with their tools.  Maybe they can post
>some tips.  I'm especially fond of FedEx, so I would ship with them!


There is no trouble travelling anywhere with tools despite what we hear!  
In June 2002 I travelled from Perth, Australia through Sydney, Australia, 
through LA to Vancouver, Canada to Graham Scholes Bootcamp and back again 
from Vancouver, LA, Melbourne (Australia) and back to Perth, Western 
Australia.  This was my second trip, one before and one after Sept 11.

All my tools were in my Big Suitcase which went into the hold of the 
plane and no questions asked.  Getting back into Australia with my wood 
blocks was "another matter"!!!!  I was grilled at customs, even though I 
had taken the same wood out, as I brought back!!!!  I did ask them though 
not to put any marks on the printing surfaces though, or else!!!

Kent and I travelled from Vancouver Is by car to Seattle and we had no 
worries then either... Kent was more concerned about his white powdered 
paint!!!

But the best advice is tell customs if you are worried and then they 
should be more understandable, and then they know you are not trying to 
conceal anything.

Good luck, Bette and Robert.
Jan

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