Baren Digest             Thursday, 5 September 2002     Volume 20 : Number 1948


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From: G Wohlken <blueman#pantek.com>
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 09:43:23 +0000
Subject: [Baren 19055] Re: Baren Digest V20 #1947 

Dan and John, please explain these in more detail as to what effects you 
get, especially if you are using transparent base without ink?  What is 
overprint varnish and what exactly does it do?  

Gayle
Ohio   


>I have printed intaglio, woodblock and litho with clear (gloss or matte)
>overprint varnish.  I had some problems when toooo much varnish printed and
>it would dry funny.  Overall it prints some interesting textural effects.
>Also have used it for flocking a print.
>


>i have printed with trans-parent base  with or without ink    
>


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From: Jim Bryant <jim.bryant#murraystate.edu>
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 09:26:24 -0500
Subject: [Baren 19056] Re: Baren Digest V20 #1947 

I've printed varnish woodblock before. made for great subtlety--I love the
effect. I ended up mixing a litho varnish with relief tint base and some
cobalt drier, printed on kitakata. straight varnish did strange things.

jim-


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> From: Dan Dew <ddew0001#tampabay.rr.com>
> Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 17:36:10 -0400
> Subject: [Baren 19051] Couple things
> 
> I have been selling a lot of prints lately!  Apparently, my animal prints
> are hot.  Which is cool, because my love of printmaking is finally paying
> for itself.  I'm not getting rich, but at least and for once I'm covering my
> costs.
> 
> Has anyone ever printed varnish?  I've been looking at room painting and
> noticed a neat technique involving painting areas with and without a varnish
> coat and thought of prints.
> 
> Anyone?
> 
> d. dew



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From: Daniel Dew <ddew#tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 10:50:03 -0400
Subject: [Baren 19057] Re: printing varnish 


> From: "pwalls1234" <pwalls1234#i-55.com>
> Subject: [Baren 19054] printing varnish
> 
> Also have used it for flocking a print.
> 
> pete w.
> 


Where is Graham when you need him!
I can't stop laughing, what is "flocking" a print?

P.S.  I'm printing a rather large area of blue and aquamarine for water,
wondered if printing over the ink with varnish would create a neat efect.
Guess I'll just have to sacrifice a print for an experiment.

d. dew

> 



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From: Sharri LaPierre <Barebonesart#attbi.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:54:39 -0700
Subject: [Baren 19058] Re: Baren Digest V20 #1947 

Dan,
I've used varnish to condition mulberry paper after printing a drypoint. 
It makes the paper remain transparent, as if it were wet. Neat effect. 
In this particular work the varnished paper was then collaged to a 
woodblock and silkscreen image.  The edition sold out. :-)

Sharri LaPierre


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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon#mlyon.com>
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 13:51:01 -0500
Subject: [Baren 19059] Re: printing varnish 

Dear Dan,

I don't see what's so flocking funny!  :-)    I imagine that pete w. was 
refering to the process of adhering short fibers (flock) to areas of his 
print...  You've seen flock before, Dan...  It's on those kitsch birthday 
cards with the short, fuzzy velvet-like "hair" covering a cutsey bear or 
rabbit.  And you find flocking on those little plaster animals, etc. which 
are covered with a nap of 'real' short hairs...  They also sell flock and 
an adhesive for lining jewelry boxes and other crafts with "felt" -- faster 
and neater than cutting and adhering fabric.

I'd be interested to hear from pete w. what he actually was doing when 
flocking his print.

- -- Mike Lyon

At 10:50 AM 9/4/2002 -0400, Dan Dew wrote:

> > From: "pwalls1234" <pwalls1234#i-55.com>
> > Subject: [Baren 19054] printing varnish
> >
> > Also have used it for flocking a print.
> >
> > pete w.
> >

>
>I can't stop laughing, what is "flocking" a print?
>


Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com 

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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:20:26 -0500
Subject: [Baren 19060] Re: Warning - serious flock content..
only for experienced flockers ! 09/04/2002 03:23:51 PM 

Hey guys, not quite sure what all this talk about "flock" has to do with
woodblock printmaking ???  Does it really belong
here ?  Sure...why not ! We can all learn about flocking together !

 I guess you can spice up your printmaking by adding a little flock here
and there...whatever it takes!  Try to keep your flocking consistent and
usually don't bother numbering them....but some printmakers do {;-).
Sometimes I flock right on top of my press and sometimes I prefer to do it
on the floor.   Flocking outside is always an option if it is not too windy
or cold. Group flocking is condomed by certain printmaking societies.

For those that may be interested in some serious  flocking (make sure you
have the right tool in hand !!!) ...there are two types of flock, a hard
and a soft flock. Printmakers usually prefer the hard flock because it
stays up longer ( I mean the fibers on the paper). A good place to find
"hard flock" is right on your television set....

http://www.eci.ox.ac.uk/staff/Terry/ally.jpg

For those members outside the USA., good "hard flock" is available all over
the world as these two sites indicate:

http://www.tele.ch/archiv/9814/006.htm

http://www.el-mundo.es/cultura/globosdeoro/flockhart.html


thanks...unanimous....
ps.. I am so ashamed! {;-)


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From: "pwalls1234" <pwalls1234#i-55.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:30:00 -0500
Subject: [Baren 19061] Re: printing varnish 

Thanks Mike ,

 My mentor, years ago, taught this technique to his print classes at Alfred
University.  Never found any uses for it until I was incorporating a
line/design element into a print in graduate school.  I had used varnishes
before for surface effect alone, but decided to "flock"  with different
carbarundum (sp?) grits (from the litho side of the studio) Ended up with
some beautiful subtle texture!  (Also used rotten stone once)  You can also
print these varnishes and then gild them using leaf while still wet to add
metalic elements if you are careful.

What the Flock Dan! ;-)

pete w.



>Dear Dan,
>
>I don't see what's so flocking funny!  :-)    I imagine that pete w. was
>refering to the process of adhering short fibers (flock) to areas of his
>print...  You've seen flock before, Dan...  It's on those kitsch birthday
>cards with the short, fuzzy velvet-like "hair" covering a cutsey bear or
>rabbit.  And you find flocking on those little plaster animals, etc. which
>are covered with a nap of 'real' short hairs...  They also sell flock and
>an adhesive for lining jewelry boxes and other crafts with "felt" -- faster
>and neater than cutting and adhering fabric.
>
>I'd be interested to hear from pete w. what he actually was doing when
>flocking his print.
>
>-- Mike Lyon
>
>At 10:50 AM 9/4/2002 -0400, Dan Dew wrote:

>> > From: "pwalls1234" <pwalls1234#i-55.com>
>> > Subject: [Baren 19054] printing varnish
>> >
>> > Also have used it for flocking a print.
>> >
>> > pete w.
>> >

>>
>>I can't stop laughing, what is "flocking" a print?
>>

>
>Mike Lyon
>mailto:mikelyon#mlyon.com
>http://www.mlyon.com
>



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From: FurryPressII#aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 21:29:05 EDT
Subject: [Baren 19062] Re: printing varnish 

print the tint base  with a wood block image with out ink.  When it dries 
print over it   the paper absorbs the ink diferntly in tint base printed 
areas and thus give you two differnt colors.  
john

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From: GraphChem#aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 08:59:39 EDT
Subject: [Baren 19063] Re: Warning - serious flock content..only for experienced f... 

Julio -
that was sooo bad! But I'm impressed. BTW, John Center, how would you feel if 
we used your Fireman print in the catalog? We're contemplating adding 
customer art to the catalog with the next edition, and the 911 prints would 
be a great starting point.  Yours is one of only two Fireman prints that I 
have. At this moment, I'm blanked on who did the other one - another senior 
moment for Dean. Let me know if that is possible.

Dean


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