Baren Digest             Wednesday, 14 August 2002     Volume 20 : Number 1926


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From: "PHARE-CAMP,PATTI (HP-USA,ex1)" <patricia_phare-camp#hp.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:30:19 -0700
Subject: [Baren 18897] RE: email scams 

Good morning, 

I'm writing in reference to the snippet I've pasted below.  These scams
inspired a fun running joke on "after 5," but when I start getting these at
work I become worried.

I've been getting one or two of these each week since we started this Yahoo
mail group for Exchange 14.  Have any of you noticed an increase in these?
I'm concerned because this is my work email and the only mail groups I
belong to are Baren, after 5 (digests) and this one.  I assumed that since
these are private mail groups and the addresses aren't publicly posted that
it would be safe to use my work email (I check it daily as opposed to once
or twice a month at home).  I don't know where these people are getting my
email address from and I don't want this type of thing coming to me at work.
I've checked with my co-workers and none of them are getting these at work.
This could become a security issue with my employer if I start getting
slammed with these (especially since this one included attachments).  If
these spam scams are pulling 

	Dear Sir/Madam,
 	I am a Private Investigator based in Europe. A group of Government
	Officials from an African Country contacted me with a Proposal. I am

	to Make contact with you and state their offer, if your Interest is 
	Genuine, you will be contacted for your Account details to which
will 
	be transferred the sum of $33,600,000.00 USD. (20% of which is
yours). 
	You are t...

I will also check with a couple of vendors I've done e-business with,
perhaps a hacker got into there files.  I hate to erase all my cookies, they
are so convenient in our company intranet and when going to pages I do
regular business with...But this may be the danger of cookies; an overweight
mail queue with viral attachments!

Patti P-C

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From: Jack Reisland <reislandj001#hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:56:38 -1000
Subject: [Baren 18898] Re: email scams 

Hi Patti,

spammers use programs that scan through ALL sites posting on the internet. They
detect and clip out e-mail addresses. Since the Baren forum is archived on
line, all our e-mail addresses are accessible to these programs. Most
unfortunate, but this is one of the prices of our freedom to communicate so
freely. I suggest that you support legislation to limit spamming, and set up a
spam filter. As annoying as these spamming scum bags are though, can you
imagine how hard it would be to have a group like Baren without the internet?

Jack R.

"PHARE-CAMP,PATTI (HP-USA,ex1)" wrote:


> Good morning,
>
> I'm writing in reference to the snippet I've pasted below.  These scams
> inspired a fun running joke on "after 5," but when I start getting these at
> work I become worried.
>
> I've been getting one or two of these each week since we started this Yahoo
> mail group for Exchange 14.  Have any of you noticed an increase in these?
> I'm concerned because this is my work email and the only mail groups I
> belong to are Baren, after 5 (digests) and this one.  I assumed that since
> these are private mail groups and the addresses aren't publicly posted that
> it would be safe to use my work email (I check it daily as opposed to once
> or twice a month at home).  I don't know where these people are getting my
> email address from and I don't want this type of thing coming to me at work.
> I've checked with my co-workers and none of them are getting these at work.
> This could become a security issue with my employer if I start getting
> slammed with these (especially since this one included attachments).  If
> these spam scams are pulling
>
> Dear Sir/Madam,
> I am a Private Investigator based in Europe. A group of Government
> Officials from an African Country contacted me with a Proposal. I am
>
> to Make contact with you and state their offer, if your Interest is
> Genuine, you will be contacted for your Account details to which
> will
> be transferred the sum of $33,600,000.00 USD. (20% of which is
> yours).
> You are t...
>
> I will also check with a couple of vendors I've done e-business with,
> perhaps a hacker got into there files.  I hate to erase all my cookies, they
> are so convenient in our company intranet and when going to pages I do
> regular business with...But this may be the danger of cookies; an overweight
> mail queue with viral attachments!
>
> Patti P-C



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From: ArtfulCarol#aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:09:30 EDT
Subject: [Baren 18899] Re: Baren Digest V20 #1925 

In a message dated 8/13/02 9:00:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
owner-baren#ml.asahi-net.or.jp writes:

<< Aqua4tis#aol.com >>

Georga,
These are the venues I know about for the Firemens Prints.

Irvington, New York,  Public Library, Martucci Gallery  (Carol Lyons)
Chicago ,( Sharen Llinders I think.. John Center should know for sure.)
Library in Tampa , Fla   ( Dan Dew organized this , but I didnt hear anything 
about the results.)

Best to get in touch with these people for the particulars.

Please let us know.
Carol Lyons

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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:12:10 -0500
Subject: [Baren 18900] Re: paper sizes 08/13/2002 06:15:06 PM 

Marilynn  writes on baren14:

"..When I received my firemans prints, which were oban size the sizes
varied
considerably.  I found some off as much as a couple of inches, smaller.  I
should think that something close in size is reasonable, mine (for 14a) is
cut a bit small because the plate centers so nicely on the size i am using,
I should think as long as it is not over sized for the box and close to
oban
it should work fine.  Am I wrong???"


Hi Marilynn...the 911-Firemans prints were not part of a formal exchange.
It was a project conceived by John Center to raise money for the cause. There were
no plans to redistribute the prints back to the artists. There also was no
case ( a la Baren exchanges) ordered for these prints as we were not expecting
them back.  John created a beautiful cover to put the prints inside and he opted for
giving each artist a set of prints back to sell, exhibit, auction, etc...(I think
John paid himself for all the $$$ shipping back !!!) the idea was/is that you
would either sell your set, exhibit them for sale or make a respectable
contribution to the fund. But not just keep them as you would an exchange.
I chose to keep my set of prints and make a donation to the 911 fund, thus
allowing me the chance to display the prints in the near future. Others are
trying to setup exhibits with the point of selling the prints or obtaining
additional prints from the contributing artists. It is an ongoing project
with still some great opportunities for us all to raise funds!

Re the limits on size...the main Baren exchange page defines oban size as
"o-ban size - a range of 10 x 15 inches (25.4 x 38 centimeters) to 10 1/2 x
15 1/2 ". That gives you a bit of play for the paper size. The actual image
can be any size. I seen 4X6 images (engravings) on a 10X15 sheet and I seen
full 10.5X15.5 bleed prints w/o borders. I enjoy and learn from them all.
The close limits on paper size are as Darryl mentioned for the sake of
uniform & ease of display during exhibits and also for fit into the folio
boxes.

Having said that...I don't think the coordinators have ever turned a set of
prints away because of small paper size. There is an obvious expense in
participating in an exchange, besides shipping costs...paper plays a major
expenditure. If someone was always entering prints which were 1/2 the size
required, you could see how others may feel. But I agree with you that an
inch here or there should not be a big deal or grounds for disqualifying
the print (as long as they fit in the case!).

Oban & other standard japanese paper sizes vary a great deal depending on
paper manufacturer...I think Mike Lyon posted about sizes a little while
back.

Just some thoughts, thanks...Julio




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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:40:11 -0500
Subject: [Baren 18901] Re: List of Baren Exhibits... 08/13/2002 06:43:06 PM 

Here is what we have so far....did I miss anyone...  or anything in 2002 ?

BAREN EXHIBITS.


Third KIWA (Kyoto International Woodprint Association) Exhibition,  Kyoto,
Japan - June 1999. Richard Steiner.

"Baren Print Portfolio", Manhattan Graphics Center, Manhattan, New York -
October 1999. Judy Mensch, April Vollmer, Sarah Hauser, Ray Hudson.

"Baren Exchange Print Exhibit", Exchanges #1-#4 + Dragons. Skokie Public Library, Skokie, Illinois -
April/May 2000. Julio Rodriguez, Sharen Linder.

"Junin-Toiro - Ten People, Ten Colors", National Art Gallery ( Nommo
Gallery ), Kampala, Uganda - May 2000. Greg Robison.

"Woodcut Prints.com", Beit Gavriel Cultural Center, Jordan Valley, Israel -
November 2000. Arye Saar.

"Baren's 6th Print Exchange Exhibit", Kent State University's Geauga Campus
Gallery, Burton, Ohio - November 2000. Gayle Wohlken.

"Woodcut Prints.com", Yad leBanim Gallery, Tiberias, Israel - January 2001.
Arye Saar.

"Baren Print Exhibit", Exhibit exchanges #5-#9 + Snakes. Skokie Public Library, Skokie, Illinois - May/June
2001.  Julio Rodriguez.

"Endangered Species", Artists Unlimited, Florida Printmakers Society,
Tampa, Florida -  August 2001. Daniel Dew.

"Text Messages", A collection of prints based on the text messages from the four Gospels. June 2002, Edinburgh, Scotland.
Greg Robison.

"Sacred Trees and Endangered Species Exhibit", A combined Print Australia & Baren exhibit at Kent State
 University's Geauga Campus Gallery, Burton, Ohio - July-August 2002. Gayle Wohlken.

"Baren Woodblock Print Exhibit",  selected prints from past Baren Exchanges. In combination with Japan Summer Fest,
at The Northwest Print Council and The Portland Art Museum, August 2002. Barbara Mason




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From: Julio.Rodriguez#walgreens.com
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:54:18 -0500
Subject: [Baren 18902] Re: List of Baren Exhibits...part 2 08/13/2002 06:57:14 PM 

Addendum to the previous message...

I did not cover the 911 Firemen's exhbits as Carol Lyons had already
mentioned them, but of course they are so very much a part of what & who we
are!

thanks...Julio Rodriguez (Skokie, Illinois)


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From: Aqua4tis#aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:20:42 EDT
Subject: [Baren 18903] Re: email scams 

ive gotten 2 of these over the last year or so

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From: Aqua4tis#aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:29:57 EDT
Subject: [Baren 18904] Re: Baren Digest V20 #1925 

carol 
     thank you very much    im still trying to meet with our local fire chief 
   unfortunately hes had brush fires to contend with
georga

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From: Aqua4tis#aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:50:32 EDT
Subject: [Baren 18905] Re: List of Baren Exhibits...part 2 

thank you julio    i want to show the "barens track record" to the fire chief 
and city council here
georga

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From: "eli griggs" <e_griggs#bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 00:45:07 -0400
Subject: [Baren 18906] Re: Baren #18876. Re: other stuff
Hi there:

Though expensive, Woodcraft is a great resource for Swiss Made tools, 
Flexcut, etc.

They do offer good cuts of Cherry, Maple, basswood & other woods in 
plank cuts, but, IF YOU CAN, find a fellow with a small saw mill and lay 
in a store of plank stuff, cut to your specs.
It. be a good investment in your printmaking future.

Cheer,
Eli


carolwagner wrote on 11.8.02 5:14 am:

Patti Phare-Camp and self went hunting local sources of wood  last 
Friday and found a WOODCRAFT store here in Sacramento. Has anyone else 
in the group encountered this chain store? They had a limited amount of 
wood suitable for Moku Hanga...maybe suitable. I purchased a piece of 
cherry, (prunis sertina) which is 1/4x3x24. I'm sure that it is nowhere 
near the quality that Dave gets in Japan, but figure I can cut it into 
three pieces and plan on doing some small 'sumizuri' prints using that 
beautiful sumi ink I ordered from Baren. I also picked up a larger piece 
of Finnish Birch plywood to experiment with. Also duly noted was how 
nicely a sample of American bass (tilla americana) cut across the grain.

Best regards to all, I really think you some of the best folk I've 
encountered in a long time,
Carol G-W
Papalotl Design Group
Sacramento, california



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