Baren Digest               Tuesday, 16 July 2002       Volume 20 : Number 1898


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From: "April Vollmer" <april@aprilvollmer.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:05:11 -0400
Subject: [Baren 18734] Size  

Thanks for the sizes, Mike. Size does matter! (though what you do with your
given size probably matters more!) What is interesting about the sizes you
mention, is that the western equivalents in inches are really halves, thirds
and quarters of whole sheets to the Japanese. It's a great way to calculate,
I always cut my paper that way, without measuring, cut in half then half
again to get the size I need. It makes sense, since paper is the most
expensive part of Japanese printmaking.

April
www.aprilvollmer.com


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From: G Wohlken <blueman@pantek.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:28:49 +0000
Subject: [Baren 18735] Nudes, Woodcuts, Exhibit Pics 


>if i did a self port. in the nude the baren folks would be rofl all the way 
>to japan and back   some things are best left unseen,
>
>john of the furry press
>
>

John, I don't think we said we'd do nude SELF portraits, just nudes in 
general.   [:-)] 

***

I was at Pioneer School the other day (a five-day summer event  at the 
historical society's museum where children  learn and participate in 
pioneer studies and crafts).  I have helped with  some of the classes 
over the years and I was recently asked by the director if there was a 
way we could add woodcuts to the curriculum.  I'd like to do that but 
don't want kids (sometimes classes are as large as 25 children) working 
with the cutting tools.  Any idea how we could get some hands-on 
experience with this.  One idea I have is to carve a number of small 
boards in designs that would be representative of those from early 
America and having the kids do the printing part.  The director thought 
we could work woodcuts in with another project they will be 
doing--stenciling.

*****  

As soon as Maria gets back from vacation, we'll try to get those 
pictures of the Endangered Species section of Meyer Center exhibit up on 
the activities page.  They are ready to go.

Gayle


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From: "Lee and Barbara Mason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 07:44:04 -0700
Subject: [Baren 18736] woodcuts with kids 

(Any idea how we could get some hands-on
experience with this.  One idea I have is to carve a number of small
boards in designs that would be representative of those from early
America and having the kids do the printing part. )

Gayle,
I think carving the blocks ahead of time and letting them print is good, but
could you also get some thin pieces of wood and glue them to a backing? Just
random shapes?

This would be wood collograph, but at least the kids would be doing it
themselves and not using sharp tools. I think cutting wood with this many
kids would truly be a nightmare and you would need lots of bandages and
parent releases for damaged kids.

Maybe you could get lots of popscicle sticks or similar small straight
pieces and just glue them down, seems you could get some realistic imagry
this way. Maybe balsa wood, can't you just cut that with an exacto knife? I
will be interested to know if this works if you try it. Maybe you could lay
it upside down on a piece of wax paper after gluing with a book on top to
dry flat. Guess you would need glue that will not rewet with
water...Elmers??

Best to all,
Barbara


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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon@mlyon.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:50:32 -0500
Subject: [Baren 18737] Re: Size 

Thanks, April...  I think I recall that you are using either dry or 
prepared pigments...  Can you let me know your procedure?  ie, sources and 
materials, grinding (you use mortar & pestle?), medium, proportions, 
shelf-life, etc?  What do you store them in?

Mike

At 10:05 AM 7/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:

>Thanks for the sizes, Mike. Size does matter! (though what you do with your
>given size probably matters more!) What is interesting about the sizes you
>mention, is that the western equivalents in inches are really halves, thirds
>and quarters of whole sheets to the Japanese. It's a great way to calculate,
>I always cut my paper that way, without measuring, cut in half then half
>again to get the size I need. It makes sense, since paper is the most
>expensive part of Japanese printmaking.
>
>April
>www.aprilvollmer.com


Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon@mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com 

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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon@mlyon.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:55:41 -0500
Subject: [Baren 18738] Re: woodcuts with kids 

 Also glue down: string, cardboard, seeds, paper clips, doilies, cloth 
(especially lace and other textures), and so on -- anything which may be 
cut with kid-scissors -- use non-toxic acrylic medium to bond the whole 
mess together after glueing, then print with water colors and barens or 
whatever!

Mike

At 07:44 AM 7/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>I think carving the blocks ahead of time and letting them print is good, but
>could you also get some thin pieces of wood and glue them to a backing? Just
>random shapes?


Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon@mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com 

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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon@mlyon.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:47:55 -0500
Subject: [Baren 18739] Barbara Patera's Bear ! 

I thought you might enjoy seeing Barbara Patera's pictures of "the bear 
which almost ate Exchange #13"...
http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_13/exchange_frame.html

Thanks for sending these, Barbara!!

- -- Mike

Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon@mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com 

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From: Marco Flavio Marinucci <marco@athomefaraway.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:19:16 -0700
Subject: [Baren 18740] Jurors on Resume? 

Hello everybody,
I have a question. I am getting into shows where the juror is a prominent
curator and I am wondering what you all think of putting his/her name on my
resume along with the show name. What do you do about it? In the past I
never considered it even with excellent jurors but nowadays people ask and
want to know who is accepting and showing my work.
Please advise and grazie in advance.
Ciao,
Marco Flavio
- ----------------------
Marco Flavio Marinucci
Woodblock Printmaking
www.athomefaraway.com

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From: "Jean Womack" <jeaneger@jeaneger.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:52:23 -0700
Subject: [Baren 18741] Re:   Baren Digest V20 #1897  

Brenda,
There is no inside information getting in on a Baren exchange.  You just
have to keep reading Baren every day and read it when they are planning the
next exchange and when they put it up on the web.  You could have signed up
for 14a.  Maybe you still can, if Marilyn will let you in.  It is a weird
way to be friends with printmakers all over the world and it takes up a lot
of time.  I am always questioning the value.  There is no doubt about the
value of the friendships.  There is no doubt about the value of the print
exchanges in making one keep up with printmaking, especially in the absence
of flocks of print buyers.  It's just that I don't get to read a novel,
clean the house or pull the weeds.  But  you know, if you joined a print
society up there, it would take up just as much time, if not more.  It puts
you in training for your retirement, when you get to do that stuff full
time, like Graham.
Jean
http://www.jeaneger.com

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From: "Jean Womack" <jeaneger@jeaneger.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:54:36 -0700
Subject: [Baren 18742] Re:   Baren Digest V20 #1897  

Mike,
What is the use in putting APPROXIMATE sizes of paper up on the web?  Why
would I want to make a print on an approximate size, hoping it could be used
for a Baren exchange.  Why don't you put EXACT sizes up there?

Carol, the stone I was talking about was a Nagura stone.  I finally
remembered.  It was way back in the memory banks, up in the stacks.
Jean


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From: Mike Lyon <mikelyon@mlyon.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:03:50 -0500
Subject: [Baren 18743] Re:   Baren Digest V20 #1897 

Jean, you're joking, right?

Well, just in case...  the Japanese paper sizes like 'oban' and 'chuban' 
are approximate dimensions because they are actually quarter sheets, or 
eighth sheets of washi, and the washi is hand made and the sheet size 
varies slightly from sheet to sheet and maker to maker.  But the EXACT 
minimimum and maximum size limitations are always posted on the exchange 
information pages...  For example, see 
http://www.barenforum.org/exchange/exchange_14/exchange_14.html

- -- Mike

At 04:54 PM 7/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>Mike,
>What is the use in putting APPROXIMATE sizes of paper up on the web?  Why
>would I want to make a print on an approximate size, hoping it could be used
>for a Baren exchange.  Why don't you put EXACT sizes up there?


Mike Lyon
mailto:mikelyon@mlyon.com
http://www.mlyon.com 

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From: Cucamongie@aol.com
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:00:04 -0400
Subject: [Baren 18744] fireman prints 

Hi, I'm posting this as I'm not sure if I have John's correct email address.  
John of the furry press, I never received my set of the fireman prints.  
Please email me offline if you need my shipping info, etc. and please let 
me know what's going on with this.  Thanks a lot!
Sarah

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From: Myron Turner <mturner@Ms.UManitoba.CA>
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 06:01:03 -0500
Subject: [Baren 18745] Re: Jurors on Resume? 

There's nothing wrong with that.

At 02:19 PM 15/07/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>Hello everybody,
>I have a question. I am getting into shows where the juror is a prominent
>curator and I am wondering what you all think of putting his/her name on my
>resume along with the show name. What do you do about it? In the past I
>never considered it even with excellent jurors but nowadays people ask and
>want to know who is accepting and showing my work.
>Please advise and grazie in advance.
>Ciao,
>Marco Flavio
>----------------------
>Marco Flavio Marinucci
>Woodblock Printmaking
>www.athomefaraway.com



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