Baren Digest Friday, 17 August 2001 Volume 16 : Number 1524 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sunnffunn@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 14:31:37 EDT Subject: [Baren 15414] (no subject) I am moving. Will have a new internet service shortly. Am here only one night and leave again tomorrow. Came in for a funeral service. I am writing to say I have to drop out of the Salon De refuse flora exchange. Please accept my apologies I just can't do that and pack up and move as well. When I have my new screen name I will change things to receive Baren there, bye for now. Marilynn Smith ------------------------------ From: Printmaker Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:42:10 +1000 Subject: [Baren 15415] Speedball Inks /digests Hi Everyone Well Dean, I have to add to the testamonials - I use graphic chemical inks and they are the best thing since sliced bread! That's the oil based ones. Havent tried your brand of water based but every other brand I've tried were hopeless in comparison to the oily stuff. Here in Sydney we have nice warm (and sometimes extremely hot) weather with high humidity and the water based inks tend to dry on the slab and on the roller before you can get them on the paper - ughhhhhh! *shudder* Its impossible to keep the tack consistent and makes printing a painful experience. I've tried speedball inks Dan and I agree with everyone else that the quality of your work deserves better materials. In comparison to what I am using, they are crap. Not to beat about the bush ;-) This is about having respect for your own work - not about being 'superior'. And its also about the materials being able to do the job you want them to do - IMHO speedball inks dont rate, they are student grade. I'm frankly amazed that you have acheived the results you have with these inks. Some art work is non-archival - I can think of dozens of examples. The point is knowing what the purpose of your making the prints is - if you want them to be archival use archival materials. If you are making art for other reasons - - and that is quite legitimate too (I agreed with your comments Maria) then use 'a thumbnail dipped in tar' to quote one of out aussie poets. And to add to Gayle's Digest request, please do not use mime formatted mail when posting to baren, use plain text. Here's a sample of what a mime post looks like in the digest Josephine

Dean,

This is very true, every = product I have=20 ever gotten from Graphic Chemical in my 20 years as a printmaker has = been of=20 excellent quality, I have never had a complaint. I cannot say that about = Dan=20 Smith or Dick Blick even the local art store. So I guess this is the = best=20 testimonial you can get, isn't it?

Best to you,

Barbara Mason

Portland, OR

But, first and foremost, you should know your = supplier. I'll get=20 off of my soapbox now.

Dean Clark
Graphic Chemical & Ink = Company

- - ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01C12561.4D6F9BE0-- ------------------------------ From: kelsey Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:12:08 -0700 Subject: [Baren 15416] Re: Baren Digest V16 #1523 I just wanted to add to the praise and say that I am very happy with the Graphic Chemical water based inks. I bought some of the new Daniel Smith water based inks not too long ago, and I was very disappointed with their quality. They claim that they are on par with their oil based inks, and this is simply not true. I hardly notice the difference between oil based inks and the Graphic Chemical water based inks, on the other hand. What> I do now with the Dan Smith inks is use them in small amounts as tints to my Graphic Chemical inks! anyhow, thanks for making such a great product. > Thank you for the unsolicited testimonials. While I wasn't looking for them, > it always feels good to know that people recognize the value of your product > etc. It isn't that we are without fault - it's just, I hope, that we're > willing to work with customers when there is a problem. ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V16 #1524 *****************************