Baren Digest                Monday, 30 July 2001        Volume 16 : Number 1506


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From: James G Mundie <jimandkatemundie@juno.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 13:42:15 -0400
Subject: [Baren 15280] Didgery printery 

I came across these the other day while doing a simple Google search and
thought that in light of recent digital printmaking discussions, you
might find the following interesting:

http://designer.com/focus/articles/woodcut/woodcut_print.htm

This is an article and tutorial by Jeremy Sutton about using Corel
Painter to create a woodcut-like effect from photographs, etc.  Before
you get all hot and bothered, I don't believe he goes so far as to print
these out and label them as 'true' woodcuts, but here's another way in
which one might design multiple color images for actual woodcuts (you
know, those things made from wood, printed using the digits found on a
human hand).  

Check out the links at the bottom of the page!  Anyone care to argue
about the merits of scratchboard - either digital or old fashioned?  ;-D

James Mundie
http://missioncreep.com/mundie/index.htm

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From: "Bill H Ritchie Jr" <ritchie@seanet.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 17:20:13 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15281] Art ed on-line

Hi all -

This is to survey action and interest in art education on line.

Some Baren list members are art teachers, covering several levels.

Some of us have Web sites that are virtual classrooms; Baren itself is a
virtual storehouse from which people can become printmakers on a level, in
many ways, with someone schooled in a traditional studio/classroom.

Baren also connects people with workshops all over the world--connections
that otherwise might have been missed.

Baren list also causes workshops to happen, travel, etc. that otherwise
would not happen, most likely.

So I'm wondering what the consensus would be if it were said that "Art
Education is already available on-line."

Or does that phrase "art education" turn off people, due to bad experiences?
Or does it turn on people, due to expectation s of some kind? like, for
example, needed college credits, certification satisfaction or some kind of
philosophic base?

In 1980 I proposed a way to teach woodcut "at a distance" around Washington
State. It was not acceptable then. I wonder if, now, it might be acceptable.
Or, is it needed and wanted by anyone--what with baren doing what it does so
well without the involvement of an institution?

I'm thinking also that you might know a school that is already teaching
print making at a distance, if so I'd like to know what college or
university this might be.

Finally, if I do have a way to teach printmaking at a distance, and also
make it "college level" i.e., creditable to the extent it could be used to
satisfy certification and degree requirements, would there be interest in
it?

In Seattle I think we have several corporations with grant-giving resources
that might, if I proposed this to them, find some self-serving reason to
fund a pilot project without necessarily an institution's credit-giving
involvement.

It's an idea I'd like your opinions about--and if out of this survey of
impressions or reactions a class does grow, I'd like to be among the people
team-teaching it.

And getting paid for teaching it, too!

(I love teaching and do it free, but I'd also like to reduce my debt from
having taught free for so long! - smile)


Bill H. Ritchie, Jr
500 Aloha #105
Seattle WA 98109
(206) 285-0658
Professional: www.seanet.com/~ritchie
E-Store: www.myartpatron.com
General: www.emeraldaworks.com
First Game Portal: www.artsport.com


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From: ArtfulCarol@aol.com
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:38:03 EDT
Subject: [Baren 15282] Re: Didgery printery 

In a message dated 7/29/01 1:56:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
jimandkatemundie@juno.com writes:

<< 
 http://designer.com/focus/articles/woodcut/woodcut_print.htm >>
Digital Woodcuts--

that is really scary.  I'm sorry to learn that exists, but 
I am naive. "Let buyer beware, if they care"
Lover of hand-made art,
Carol

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From: FurryPressII@aol.com
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:35:36 EDT
Subject: [Baren 15283] Re: Didgery printery 

i print wood cuts and engraving using faris metal  steel printing press no 
hands 
john of the furry press

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From: Sunnffunn@aol.com
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:01:05 EDT
Subject: [Baren 15284] Re: Baren Digest V16 #1503 


You are wondering about what to call an artist who works in a medium 
different than yours or one that is new.  If the work is original than it 
will find a name and a home.  I read this and remembered the comment a friend 
gave me today. (I thought she was a friend)  It was a huge put down to me as 
a person and left no room for me to even hold myself of value let alone call 
myself anything in her eyes.  I am struggling just to be recognized as worthy 
and as an artist let alone what a person who creates on a computer should be 
called.
This person told me I did not have to be concerned about they type of clothes 
or shoes i wear each day because I do not get up and go to work.  Well art 
for me is my work, my life.  That is the ignorance I am fighting not whether 
my art is a print.
Marilynn


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From: "bemason" <bemason@concentric.net>
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:07:44 -0700
Subject: [Baren 15285] Re: Art ed on-line 

Bill,
I think this is a good idea, but hard to do. Maybe if it was a video. I
don't know of any online teaching of printmaking but it is an interesting
idea. I would say set it up and see if you can get students. I don't know
about credit, but why not?
Barbara

>
> In 1980 I proposed a way to teach woodcut "at a distance" around
Washington
> State>
> Finally, if I do have a way to teach printmaking at a distance, and also
> make it "college level" i.e., creditable to the extent it could be used to
> satisfy certification and degree requirements, would there be interest in
> it?
> Bill H. Ritchie, Jr
> >



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From: Daniel Dew <ddew@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:24:16 -0400
Subject: [Baren 15286] Let's try again 

Anyone want a drink on me?
I'm heading out to Los Angeles this week and was wondering who is near by
and thirsty?
Any tips on a good place to view, discuss, etc... with printmakers?

dan dew 

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From: "April Vollmer" <april@aprilvollmer.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:58:03 -0400
Subject: [Baren 15287] Small Monuments
>full scale Parthenon in Nashville...

is it really? I thought it was half? Here in NYC we have a cute little one
at Wall Street, I think it's a third size. Somehow it lacks the grandeur of
the original, it has a George Washington out front (no toga), lots of
traffic, and the tall buildings of the financial district keep it in shadow.

And Maria deserves a monument! Maria you are wonderful, keeping track of our
pennies, three cheers for the baren Mall-mistress!

I enjoyed reading my mail this morning! nice to hear that David Stones is
having similar struggles coming to terms with the pluses and minuses of
digital technology. And of course fun to hear how Jan's foot-in-mouth
problem seems to have resulted in a nice studio visit!

April
www.aprilvollmer.com



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