Baren Digest Thursday, 21 December 2000 Volume 13 : Number 1253 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lezle Williams" Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 08:22:03 -0600 Subject: [Baren 12562] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1252 charset="iso-8859-1" Just my two cents worth... I bought the 12" x 24" Dick Block table-top when I was a "poor art" student 10 years ago and I have been perfectly happy with it. I have used it mostly for relief, but it works fine with intaglio- it just takes a little more pressure to crank it through. Two years ago, I bought a larger used Ettan mostly for intaglio and it has been absolutely great. Lezle Williams www.laughingcrow.org ------------------------------ From: John and Jan Telfer Date: Wed, 20 Dec 00 23:29:00 -0000 Subject: [Baren 12563] Chinese New Year 2001 Chinese New Year in 2001 - In the Chinese calendar The Year of the Snake starts on January 24th not January 1st as our Year. I have some exquisite reptiles creeping into my letterbox along with the resident spiders and I thank Michelle, Ruth, Kate, Dan, Philip and the one that got away for their postcards that have reached Australian shores. Jan ------------------------------ From: Lawrence Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 02:09:32 +1100 Subject: [Baren 12564] Re: Chinese New Year 2001 The start date of the Chinese New Year is a plus, I'll have the prints to you by the chinese new year then without a doubt. Happy Chinese Xmas as that's tonight 21st Dec. Ciao Lawrence ------------------------------ From: "Jeanne Norman Chase" Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 10:46:26 -0500 Subject: [Baren 12565] Re: presses, exhanges etc charset="iso-8859-1" Lezle Finally someone who is happy with their Etan press. I learned on my best friends Etan press. She has had her press for 11 years. It has been in Florida, shipped to San Francisco, then to South Carolina and now in Virginia. It is still in tip top condition. After using her press , I rushed right home (3 years ago) and ordered mine. I love it, works great for me. Dan, What a great idea, an exchange with Australia, and love the endangered species theme. It has my vote! The Baren # 7 exchange portfolios are now coming out of the closet and heading to your destination. I guess Dave will be putting them on the net soon. A word to exchange people. Make your prints the correct size. When they are even a little too large, then they have to be crammed into a box that sometimes ruins the edges. After being a Coordinator, I am going to always make mine just a teensy bit smaller than the stated size. Jeanne, freezing in 40 degrees, in sunny Florida. ------------------------------ From: Mike Lyon Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:05:02 -0600 Subject: [Baren 12566] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1251 Just a reminder to take care to include only the few lines pertinent to your reply -- please don't include the entire Digest along with your comments (and only send your message 'one' time?)... Thanks! Mike Lyon ------------------------------ From: kelsey Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 09:50:57 -0800 Subject: [Baren 12567] Re: Baren Digest V13 #1251 re: archival printer paper. dan- in addition to 100% cotton paper, which is very expensive, most laser papers are acid free. i know for one that the hammermill color laser copier paper is acid free and of archival quality, and it is cheaper to purchase by the ream than the cotton paper. (i dreamed about sharpening tools last night, wonder why that was...?) ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:19:41 -0700 Subject: [Baren 12568] Re: tools, presses, ideas This just in from Murilo Pereira of Brazil: Hello, there. About tools don't heard anybody talk of Japanese Tombo . What do you think of these? I use Tombo for wood carving and lino too. I 'm proud to tell you I have a piece of 9 tools hand made , present of my partner printmaker , a good new and young lady, her father lives out of here in another town, interior town, and a friend of his made the tools for us, their beautiful and large, you can cut every type of wood with them. I sure am looking for a etching press and needing one very much indeed. You can do a wood engraver printing with baren but metal you can't. I have many plates waiting for one to become living. Dmitri talked about exanging ideas. So I want to send him one: please visit "00 drawings in Barbara Gladstone Gallery", its the best thing in Art that I've seen this year in the Net. Wonderful 100 artists among which Louise Burgeois, Anish Kapoor, Antoni Tapies, Richard Serra, and several American, show their work on paper done exclusively for this opening, they are great. go there and see for yourself, one hundred works on paper, all giants. The ideas are all there. I hope you enjoy it. So many things to say and ask about but I know we can't write very much. I looked at the Snakes, and the people of Uganda, and the new Dave's picture , and in this moment right now haven't words unless congratulations. Christmas is coming, good fortune to all. Best wishes, Murilo, Florianópolis, Santa Catarina, Brazil. ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:01:13 -0600 Subject: [Baren 12569] Re: GraphChem@aol.com 12/20/2000 02:01:00 PM Hi Susan, are you guys open your regular hours during the holidays or what ? I live up in the north side and I been trying to get down there, possibly on a saturday..... best wishes to all.....Julio (up in Skokie) ------------------------------ From: GraphChem@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:00:29 EST Subject: [Baren 12570] Re: GraphChem@aol.com Dear Julio, We will close early Friday the 22nd ( about 2:00 p.m.), and be closed Monday the 25th and the 1st. If you want to come down on a Saturday morning, just call the office first - Dean is usually here. We've just listed the Saturday hours as appointment only because Dean and I are occasionally out of town and don't want to disappoint (or inconvenience) those who drive a distance. Susan ------------------------------ From: brad Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:00:17 -0800 Subject: [Baren 12571] OT: Re: tools, presses, ideas Kind of off topic, but... I tried www.gladstone.com to see if that gallery was there... and found quite an interesting vignette of America... worth a look... Now what is the URL for the Gladstone Gallery? BS ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:40:39 -0600 Subject: [Baren 12572] Re: GraphChem@aol.com 12/20/2000 04:40:27 PM Thanks Susan....I will call first, let' see how the weather behaves...I have your catalog so maybe I'll call ahead to make sure stuff is available.....mostly looking for a few engraving tools and some water based inks. Your advise and suggestions to the group is most welcome. thanks...Julio ------------------------------ From: Julio.Rodriguez@walgreens.com Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:59:28 -0600 Subject: [Baren 12573] Re: Hanga Question 12/20/2000 05:59:16 PM Hi Dan......I do just that....when I want to intensify the color, I just lift the paper up a bit (either put a heavy weight at the opposite end of the side you are reprinting or be careful not to goof the registration...) add a bit more pigment to the block , let the paper fall back into position and print again. If what you are thinking of is to obtain a bokashi style gradation by printing light, removing some of the block and then print again and again to gain a darker image....eventually ending with a gradation..........don't know...may work...but you will probably have hard defined breaks in your gradation....me thinks....try it! Let us know how it turns out... Julio ------------------------------ From: "Daniel L. Dew" Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:03:29 -0500 Subject: [Baren 12574] Re: Hanga Question Thanks! Not gradation though, only backgrounds and shadows, with hard breaks acceptable. Guess ya'll see the finished product since it is the Exchange #8 print. Ho boy, experimenting again, but not to worry, I did a whole bunch of "extras" this time! Plenty of room to screw up. The first color came out evenly, but the ink was very thin and looked sorta "washed out". When I printed the same color again over the first run, it came out much richer and I thought, "I could have some real fun with this effect" since I do a lot of "portrait" type work. Instead of printing a second time with a darker color, just print the first color over again. Oh well, hard to explain. see ya, dan dew confused after learning Java today (or at least trying to). dan dew ------------------------------ From: Claude Villeneuve Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:15:35 -0500 Subject: [Baren 12575] Posting re printing presses Hello everyone! I'm a printmaker from Montreal (Quebec, Canada) and I'm a new Baren member. I joined about 6 weeks ago and couldn't figure out how to post messages before so I have had to quietly follow the discussions without participating. So now, let's hope it works. 1. Here is my experience with etching presses: I bought a nearly-new Praga Press about 3 years ago and I love it. It is made in Canada (in Ontario to be more precise) The model I have is an 18 x 36 Deluxe model. Back at university we used a Praga Heavy Duty press (36 x 72 inches) that endured a lot from students over the years but always gave good results so when I had the chance to purchase a Praga Press, I didn't hesitate a moment. I knew it would work well and it has kept its promise over the years. I print etchings, collagraphs, linocuts, woodcuts and monoprints on it with great results. So I suggest to those who are looking for presses to go to Praga's website: www.praga.com and check out the various models and price list. Sometimes they also have used presses for sale. They also sell printmaking supplies, have a quarterly newsletter, etc. etc. Their prices are very good and I imagine that their prices are very competitive since our Canadian dollars is not worth much... ( And no, I don't get a commission either on sales:-) 2, Year of the Snake exchange. Thanks to those who have already sent the beautiful creatures. Mine is still in the making and will be leaving in a week or two. In early January Canada Post is issuing a Year of the Snake Stamp. I'll wait till then to send my snakes with the new stamps. Then you can compare our Canadian Snake stamp with the US one Maria was talking about. I'm glad to have joined the Baren Exchange where the discussions are so lively, interesting and sparkled with a bit of humour. Long Live this beautiful community of printmakers! Claude Aimée Villeneuve ------------------------------ From: Wanda Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:30:06 -0700 Subject: [Baren 12577] Re: Hanga Question I understand what you mean Dan. Using the same color & same block - over once or twice or even several times. In Japanese printmaking (Hanga) that is certainly used a lot. With the transparent water-based colors, it will give a depth of color that you cannot get with any other method. It also works great to plan out layers of different colors & different shades that will overlap in different parts of the print, creating many hues, shades & colors out of these layers. Hanga is truly a very versatile medium. Has a pretty steep learning curve at first - but it is really worth it! For more information on any of these techniques - check out David Bull's pages at: http://woodblock.com There's a series of images showing different blocks & different impressions & shades of colors in there that is very instructive. Ducks, I believe! Wanda PS: By the way - lovely snake print, Dan! ------------------------------ From: ArtfulCarol@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 22:06:54 EST Subject: [Baren 12579] Re: Hanga Question Hi Dan and Julio, About intensifying a color--I have my printing paper clipped onto the wood block so I can lift it up as many times as I need to and it doesn't budge. My block extends beyond the table, just enough to use the clips. This keeps the block flat.. It takes just a few seconds and works well for me. Happy Holidays! Carol Lyons Irvington NY ------------------------------ End of Baren Digest V13 #1253 *****************************