Baren Digest               Monday, 21 August 2000       Volume 12 : Number 1120


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From: Gayle Wohlken <blueman@pantek.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 09:38:54 -0400
Subject: [Baren 11049] Re: Baren Digest V12 #1119--Carving Skills 

> before I read your post to that effect I was admiring your hat print and baby 
> dragon print which I have up in my apartment and really enjoying the 
> beautiful effects (motion and emotion) that you get with the way you carve.

Sarah, I meant as a fine line carver, I'll probably never be able to do
those kinds of acrobatics that are so admirable to see in a print.    I
plan my prints to look different, then, using areas of dark against
light and texture against non texture and in the case of colors, ones
that play off each other--blue with orange, etc--with dips into grayed
hue against small areas of pure hue to achieve luminosity.  But if you
could watch me carve, you'd know what I mean about skill in that area. 
I can't seem to even help myself.  When I start, things change and I
feel urges to start hacking in certain areas and you see little chips
flying and I feel a demon has taken over.  It's just risky, what
happens.  

Gayle

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 07:54:43 -0700
Subject: [Baren 11050] Re: Gayle's carving 

>Gayle, funny you consider yourself "not a good carver", coincidentally,
>before I read your post to that effect I was admiring your hat print and baby
>dragon print which I have up in my apartment and really enjoying the
>beautiful effects (motion and emotion) that you get with the way you carve.
>best wishes
>Sarah Hauser

You see Gayle, just exactly what I tried to say.
Well put Sarah ...... Motion and Emotion......
If they ain't there it ain't there Luv.
All else is just an image....a decoration.



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From: "Lezle Williams" <lezlewilliams@gwtc.net>
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 13:09:36 -0600
Subject: [Baren 11051] Re:   Baren Digest V12 #1119/website charset="iso-8859-1" 

Dear Jean,

Thanks for the compliment!  I need to get back to doing some
watercolor- I haven't done a bit since rediscovering printmaking
a couple of years ago.

I bought my polystyrene from a plastics company that deals in
plexiglass, tubings, etc.  I don't know about Home Depot...

____________________________________
Dear Barbara,

I just put an enlargement of the crow/messenger image up.  The
embossments don't show much, though.  I also put up a (real
basic) process page- which I have been intending to do for some
time.  You can actually see the image and engraving better on
this page because of the contrast.

http://www.laughingcrow.org/images/crow2.gif

http://www.laughingcrow.org/plate.html


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From: Kris Alder <krisalder@cc.usu.edu>
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 12:46:58 -0600
Subject: [Baren 11052] RE: wintergreen oil 

John,

I can't honestly say how it is used.  There are "wintergreen flavored" treats 
on the market, but of other uses I don't know.  I checked again on the prices.
 They have gone up, almost double, since I last bought any. ( A little bit 
goes a l-o-n-g way, so it's been a while!)  The largest bottle in the gourmet 
store was $30 for about 48 oz.  No child proof lid.  I'm just trying to 
deliver info. about a source.  I'm not the expert on all of the product's 
uses.  Sorry.  Maybe sombody else out there can help out with this question.

Kris


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Kristine Alder, Printmaker/Art Educator
Logan, UT

<krisalder@cc.usu.edu>
<kritz85@hotmail.com>
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From: Andrea Cuchetto (Dega)  <andreadega@ureach.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 15:23:36 -0400
Subject: [Baren 11053] Re: wintergreen oil (and dead things) 

My .2 on the subject of wintergreen oil:
This past year something died in the walls of my rented 
home. (A putrid smell was the giveaway.) Since there was 
no locating the dead thing, the landlord suggested we 
mask the smell with...you guessed it--wintergreen oil. She 
suggested putting "just a tiny bit" on cottonballs and 
tossing them in the general vacinity of the stench, and 
putting them in the air vents and on the windowsills. 
Unfortunately, this didn't get rid of the smell. Now we had 
*two* noxious odors to contend with. So, for all the troopers 
that use wintergreen oil in transferring images, I think that's 
terrific. But, since my experience with the oil has been so 
tainted, I won't be joining in the fun. Unless I decide to do a 
print on the subject of roadkill, or the like....

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From: Graham Scholes <gscholes@home.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 12:34:35 -0700
Subject: [Baren 11054] Creative Skills 

  Gayle wrote.....

>Sarah, I meant as a fine line carver, I'll probably never be able to 
>do those kinds of acrobatics that are so admirable to see in a print.

Lucky you, that you will "never be able to do those kinds of acrobatics"
Admired by ! !? ..... well I won't go there because I think I am in 
enough dodo now.
Sure it can be admired, but can it move ones emotions.
Maybe yes, maybe no.  (Different strokes for different folks.)

>But if you could watch me carve, you'd know what I mean about skill 
>in that area. I can't seem to even help myself.

Again lucky you ..... which is better expressed as (born creative, 
uncontrolable inherent ability) to carve uninhibited.  Your 
explanation of "just risky, what happens" is the true creative 
inspiration.

I know, I know I am getting to be a bit of a bore.....
Over the years that this forum is become proned to .... well you know.
and my mission is to ..... well you know.

well you know
Graham

ps
Consider this ......
http://members.home.net/gscholes/boardwalk.html
Is it craft or art....




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From: Karla Hackenmiller <khackenm@bmtc.net>
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 15:17:38 -0500
Subject: [Baren 11055] Workshop & HIPS 

Hi Bareners,
This message is long overdue -- I want to publicly say "thank you" to
April Vollmer who did an incredible job teaching Japanese Woodcut at
Frogman's Print & Paper Workshops this summer.  She was very organized
with a lot of information and it seemed all of the students completed
quite a bit of work.  I would highly recommend her.  It was good to see
Lezle Williams and Kat Pukas there, too.  Next summer our two woodcut
artists will be Jeanine Coupe Ryding (Chicago) and Keiji Shinohara
(Connecticut).  I hope to have the website updated this fall with the
new info for 2001.

Also, in response to Lezle's post -- yes, I use HIPS in addition to
wood.  It's a homogenous white plastic that comes in several thicknesses
(I recommend the 1/8") and is incredibly versatile.  It's great to have
material on hand that can be utilized for whichever process your next
artwork necessitates -- relief, relief engraving, collagraph, intaglio
engraving, drypoint, etc.

Karla Hackenmiller
Univ. of Neb. at Kearney and Frogman's Press & Gallery
http://www.bmtc.net/~frogmans


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From: Greg Carter <artfool@bulloch.net>
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 05:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Baren 11059] Re: Cintra 

The PVC sign material that was mentioned in a posting is called Cintra and
can be found at your local sign maker. This material is interesting to the
wood carver because it is harder than lino yet easier to carve than wood.
My students have gotten some intersting results from electric tools such as
a engravers because Cintra holds fine textures well,

Greg Carter



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